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re: OT Doctors/EMTs a few questions
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:14 am to fr33manator
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:14 am to fr33manator
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Is this when you are taking a dump and get real lightheaded for a bit and then you are fine again?
Pushing out a shite can vagal you (lower BP) down.
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Is this dangerous?
If you pass out it is
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:35 am to Ghost Hog
Same thing happened to a guy sitting next to us (4 MDs) at a restaurant 2 years ago. He slumped over in his chair, was unresponsive, and we noticed him when his buddies were pulling him out of his chair and laid him on the floor. Wasn’t choking, they said. He had a faint pulse and wasn’t passing any air from his mouth. So, heart was beating; CPR not necessary. My buddy (anesthesiologist) did a jaw thrust to rectify his occluded airway; he took a huge gasp, and started breathing on his own. His pulse got stronger, and he regained consciousness, and was fine. Evidently, they had played golf all day, he was dehydrated, started drinking, and he passed out and occluded his airway.
The jaw thrust is often used to wake people up in the OR after too much dipervan.
The jaw thrust is often used to wake people up in the OR after too much dipervan.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:43 am to fr33manator
That's near syncope or presyncope.
But, I'd still mention it to my doctor.
quote:Canadian news
Though it may be scary to pass out while on the toilet, overstraining and pain, rather than underlying heart disease, are by far the most common reasons for fainting on the toilet according to Dr. Chris Simpson, a syncope expert and acting dean of health sciences at Queen's University.
Simpson says that he has never uncovered a potentially life-threatening, hidden condition in someone who complained of defecation syncope
But, I'd still mention it to my doctor.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 8:46 am
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:59 am to Ghost Hog
It could have been a number of things absence seizure, cardiac issue, etc.
Off the top of my head need an EEG to check for recent seizure activity, a holter monitor to monitor for cardiac arrhythmia’s, and a full suite of labs, and probably a head CT to rule out anything up there including stroke etc. oh and a tox screen.
Off the top of my head need an EEG to check for recent seizure activity, a holter monitor to monitor for cardiac arrhythmia’s, and a full suite of labs, and probably a head CT to rule out anything up there including stroke etc. oh and a tox screen.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:12 am to Lithium
I agree and me and my other friend urged him to go to the hospital but he refused.
We were at a restaurant. When he regained consciousness, the EMTs had just arrived. They asked him some questions, took some vitals and gave him a finger jab for some blood then let him go.
We were at a restaurant. When he regained consciousness, the EMTs had just arrived. They asked him some questions, took some vitals and gave him a finger jab for some blood then let him go.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:15 am to Ghost Hog
What does he say today? That was not a minor event. He's lucky he got a sign that ended with him alive. Will he stupidly ignore it?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:17 am to kisatchie53
The odds he was actually in cardiac arrest are pretty low I’d say. Also, odds someone coming over and doing chest compressions and him being brought back quickly, to where he’s talking and all that is fairly low. Sounds like he bottomed out, seizure, or simply passed out. Could be a cardiac event but him being pulseless is unlikely given your story, I obviously cannot say 100%. I’m a paramedic, the amount of people doing cpr on someone breathing and has a pulse is high
I personally agree with you. I just think the girl that took over couldn't find a pulse and therefore began chest compression. I think it's unlikely that his heart stopped and they brought him back and was just fine all of a sudden
I personally agree with you. I just think the girl that took over couldn't find a pulse and therefore began chest compression. I think it's unlikely that his heart stopped and they brought him back and was just fine all of a sudden
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:22 am to Jake88
He text us this morning and is OK. Says he feels fine and he thinks it was a blood sugar issue. I still told him that he needs to go to the doctor today to get checked out. I think if it were just him there is a 50/50 shot he would ignore it, but we informed his brother and parents about the incident so I think that they will likely push him enough to get him to the doctor.
He doesn't realize how scary the incident was. To him he thinks he just fainted, but there was much more to it than that.
He doesn't realize how scary the incident was. To him he thinks he just fainted, but there was much more to it than that.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:27 am to Ghost Hog
Was this person on blood thinners by any chance? Def needs full workup, could be susceptible to clots
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:27 am to Ghost Hog
He needs a Holter monitor at the very least.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:30 am to BigWillyMetry
No I don't think so.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:13 am to Ghost Hog
My sister (no pics) is pretty severely non-diabetic hypoglycemic and it sounds like it could have been a hypoglycemic episode. If she doesn’t eat all day, she normally gets pale, lightheaded and will pass out. Combine the fasting with alcohol (hypoglycemics aren’t supposed to drink) & that could have sent him over the edge.
I know my sister had a fasting glucose test ran when we were young, it was like a whole day event. She now carries glucose pills with her everywhere because she’s passed out driving before. Good luck to your friend and hope you find answers!
I know my sister had a fasting glucose test ran when we were young, it was like a whole day event. She now carries glucose pills with her everywhere because she’s passed out driving before. Good luck to your friend and hope you find answers!
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:28 am to Ghost Hog
Vagal response
Happened to my dad a few years back at a restaurant. Just slumped in his chair at dinner and got pale. We laid him on the floor with his legs elevated and he woke right up. They took him to the hospital and ran blood work and such and all was fine.
Happened to my dad a few years back at a restaurant. Just slumped in his chair at dinner and got pale. We laid him on the floor with his legs elevated and he woke right up. They took him to the hospital and ran blood work and such and all was fine.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:31 am to Ghost Hog
Vagal syncopy. It has happened to people drinking water driving down the road who suddenly pass out and crash.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:33 am to Lithium
Well y’all seem to be experts on the Subject. Like I said I’m a JAFERD.
Just A frickin’ ER Doctor
Just A frickin’ ER Doctor
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:39 am to LegendInMyMind
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How long can a doctor keep a hold or restriction on his license like that if he hasn't had anymore issues?
It's probably different from state to state. But I have a good friend who has epilepsy and he had a seizure driving when he was younger. This has been 15-20 years ago too, so I'm sure things could be different and he has since lost his license for good I believe. But he had to be seizure-free for six months the first time before his doctor could clear him to reapply.
After his initial accident, he got his license back after like 18 months or so. But he had more seizures (at home, not while driving) and his Dr got his license suspended again. He was understandably pissed off but has come to realize that it was for his and others safety. He now lives at home with his aging parents and is on disability. It was wild watching the depression he went through by basically losing his freedom to go anywhere on his own. I go by and visit him every now and then and he is a shell of his former self. I hate it for the guy.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:45 am to terd ferguson
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:46 am to Lithium
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Just A frickin’ ER Doctor
All forms of plumbers, mechanics, etc. weighing in on this, Lith!
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:48 am to Lithium
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Can’t rule out a cardiac event
Not sure if you were replying to me or just simply replying. I wasn’t ruling out a cardiac event, I was in a roundabout way ruling out cardiac arrest though.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:55 am to Spankum
You forgot about the guys living in their parents basement and those dating an OT 4 who makes them watch greys anatomy and scrubs
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