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re: opening of Confederate time capsule discovered during dissembling of Robert E. Lee

Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:07 pm to
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Lee v Grant in 1982 when the South still had men and supplies would have been a better matchup than 1984 post-Gettysburg Lee. The South was handing the North their arse in Virginia in 82 and 83.


Are you drunk, or just really stupid?
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2235 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Same could be said about Rommel and Yamamoto.


This is an excellent comparison. Both were brilliant tacticians. Both also believed that their leaders were leading them down the wrong road, but they were men of honor and did their duty. Lee is very similar, however they are generally not vilified.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175770 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:43 pm to
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Are you drunk, or just really stupid?

Peninsula, Northern Virginia, and Chancellorsville campaigns
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24510 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:07 pm to
Your years are all fricked up, hence you are too
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175770 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:18 pm to
The campaigns I’m talking about happened in 62 and 63. Like I said
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175770 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:19 pm to
I’ve also had a few Christmas cold ones
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6423 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:25 pm to
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All things must pass.



Even the current load of shite that is being forced on everyone.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:32 pm to
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I’ve also had a few Christmas cold ones


Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:49 pm to
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Lee v Grant in 1862 when the South still had men and supplies would have been a better matchup than the 1863 post-Gettysburg Lee. The South was handing the North their arse in Virginia in 63 and 63.


It would’ve been great because Grant may have actually used all the resources of the Union and dominated the war ending it in 62 or 63 instead of being indecisive and letting the war drag on for 3 more years
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69654 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:04 pm to
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It would’ve been great because Grant may have actually used all the resources of the Union and dominated the war ending it in 62 or 63 instead of being indecisive and letting the war drag on for 3 more years



The war really should have ended at Antietam in September 1862. Lee blundered in choosing to remain in Maryland to fight a battle and almost got his army annihilated in the process. A slightly more aggressive commander would have sent the Fifth or Sixth Corps (neither of which saw action that day) into the breach after Lee's center collapsed at the Sunken Road.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:09 pm to
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The war really should have ended at Antietam in September 1862. Lee blundered in choosing to remain in Maryland to fight a battle and almost got his army annihilated in the process. A slightly more aggressive commander would have sent the Fifth or Sixth Corps (neither of which saw action that day) into the breach after Lee's center collapsed at the Sunken Road.

Agreed bro that’s literally what I was just saying…. McClellan just couldn’t get it done (and couldn’t beat Lincoln for pres in ‘64).
Also is there a more famous picture of someone getting fired?

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26075 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:57 pm to
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No, he would have just attacked piecemeal and wrecked his corps against Cemetery Hill.


Ewell himself admitted he moved too slow and you know it. The Union troops were in disarray and a good timely push along with coordinated artillery fire, which Lee had called for and was never delivered, likely pushes the Union from Cemetery Hill

They were running. Hit them hard and quickly and they likely run again most of them were Howard's people and they had run before. Ewell delayed worrying about an attack from the east than was never there, Jackson would have taken the damn hill.

Do that, and there's no Battle of Gettysburg. No Picketts Charge. Perhaps Lee defeats the Army of the Potomac, which is why he invaded Pennsylvania to begin with.

No Grant coming East. No Sherman. No Lincoln re election.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 12:10 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:00 am to
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Any of these pre-1900 statues need some sort of historical designation to protect them from being demolished.


They did. We enacted laws to save them in the 90s.

But we were overrun with transplants. And that was that.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:06 am to
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Pretty scary when you think about it.


As bad as things are, I think it will get worse, and we will see real violence.

These people are evil.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26075 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:15 am to
I'm afraid they are going to force it
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23872 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:20 am to
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MikeAV8s

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TuckyTiger

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SCLibertarian

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Landmass


Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26075 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:44 am to


Is THIS Snowman there Bandit?
Posted by TuckyTiger
Central Ky
Member since Nov 2016
494 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:11 am to
Posted by wnot91
Member since Oct 2021
22 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:15 am to
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honor


Honor? Really? He was a traitor of the highest order.
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3770 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:37 am to
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so they let their morales fall by the waist side


That’s why it’s imperative you have a good belt.
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