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On this day 157 years ago, the Emancipation Proclamation went into effect
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:46 am
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:46 am
The Day of Jubilee!
On September 22, 1862, Abraham Lincoln had announced his Emancipation Proclamation and gave the South an ultimatum: return to the Union by New Years Day or face the fact that your slaves will be henceforth forever free. The South scoffed at such a notion and thus ignored Lincoln's proclamation. And so on January 1, 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation went into full effect.
However, it was mostly a symbolic gesture to show the other nations of the world that this civil war of America's was no longer about preserving the Union but was now about something much deeper and more human: freedom. As a result, France and the British Empire would unlikely get themselves involved militarily in the conflict. Legally speaking, the Proclamation most likely didn't have a prayer's chance of holding up in court after the war had concluded. In order to ensure slavery's end, Lincoln would need the Thirteenth Amendment. But such an amendment was still a long way down the road and a topic for another day.
On September 22, 1862, Abraham Lincoln had announced his Emancipation Proclamation and gave the South an ultimatum: return to the Union by New Years Day or face the fact that your slaves will be henceforth forever free. The South scoffed at such a notion and thus ignored Lincoln's proclamation. And so on January 1, 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation went into full effect.
However, it was mostly a symbolic gesture to show the other nations of the world that this civil war of America's was no longer about preserving the Union but was now about something much deeper and more human: freedom. As a result, France and the British Empire would unlikely get themselves involved militarily in the conflict. Legally speaking, the Proclamation most likely didn't have a prayer's chance of holding up in court after the war had concluded. In order to ensure slavery's end, Lincoln would need the Thirteenth Amendment. But such an amendment was still a long way down the road and a topic for another day.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 7:48 am
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:47 am to RollTide1987
If the South would’ve won, we’d have it made...
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:48 am to RollTide1987
Shame it took so long. Imagine how different of a country we’d have if our founding fathers would’ve taken the necessary steps to phase out slavery.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:52 am to RollTide1987
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On this day 157 years ago, the Emancipation Proclamation went into effect
and it technically did absolutely nothing
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:55 am to Hoyt
Slavery made the South stagnant.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:56 am to RollTide1987
And did nothing except unofficially make the war about ending slavery
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:56 am to alajones
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Imagine how different of a country we’d have if our founding fathers would’ve taken the necessary steps to phase out slavery.
In truth, they thought they had. When the Constitutional Convention was ongoing in 1787, many of them decided to let slavery stand in the southern states because it was seen as a dying institution anyway. Cotton wasn't a staple crop yet and the only two things slaves were used for was harvesting sugar and tobacco. There were less than one million slaves in North America at that time and most saw them as non-profitable commodities.
They included a provision in the Constitution which abolished the slave trade by 1808. Most thought slavery would be dead by then. None of them could have predicted Eli Whitney and the Cotton 'Gin. If not for that invention, slavery would have died out in the early 19th Century.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:58 am to Hoyt
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If the South would’ve won, we’d have it made...
Yeah and probably a 100% chance none of us would be alive posting on this site today
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:14 am to theunknownknight
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and it technically did absolutely nothing
Well didnt it keep either the French or British from joining the war on the side of the South? Which would have cost the North the war
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:16 am to Lord_Ford
Slavery was very wrong, as was Segregation; however, the War of Northern Aggression was initially about much more than slavery.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:33 am to Hoyt
Even without the war, slavery would not have lasted through the 19th century. Political and social pressure along with the onset of the industrial revolution would have allowed the southern states to end slavery in its own terms. It didn’t need a war. The country destroying itself and killing 600k of its own sons was not the “right answer.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:37 am to Hoyt
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Slavery was very wrong, as was Segregation; however, the War of Northern Aggression was initially about much more than slavery
They were treated so much worse when they left the plantation and went north. I'll never understand why yankees hate minorities so much. I would estimate that around 100% of white folks up north find blacks despicable and gross.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:48 am to RollTide1987
Do you think the Civil War still would have happened if the southern states had sudden given all slaves their freedom?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:57 am to Hoyt
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If the South would’ve won, we’d have it made...
....said no black person ever
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:01 am to sicboy
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....said no black person ever
They are much better off here than up in the completely segregated north.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:06 am to BatonrougeCajun
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The country destroying itself and killing 600k of its own sons was not the “right answer.
I agree with this statement.
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Even without the war, slavery would not have lasted through the 19th century. Political and social pressure along with the onset of the industrial revolution would have allowed the southern states to end slavery in its own terms.
Can you elaborate on your thought? Would the economic leaders in the South have embraced industrial innovation found in the North without experiencing an economic collapse from eliminating the practice of chattel slavery? States that formed the Confederacy were invested in protecting their citizens, of which the major landowners and agricultural producers.
I want to see a good argument how the government officials and social leaders, At The Time With Primary Sources, would have ended the practice and not from economists and social theorists with the benefit of hindsight.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:09 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Do you think the Civil War still would have happened if the southern states had sudden given all slaves their freedom?
If slavery had never existed the South never secedes from the Union. So no. I don't think it still would have happened.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:13 am to McVick
In 1860, the economic value of slavery exceeded the value of all the nation's railroads, factories, and banks combined. You don't get rid of an institution worth that much so easily. That's a lot of money you are asking plantation owners to voluntarily give up.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:13 am to RollTide1987
So does this mean my Reparations are due now or after my taxes?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:15 am to AU1960
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So does this mean my Reparations are due now or after my taxes?
Any person still alive who owned a slave in the Antebellum South should be required to pay their descendants reparations.
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