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re: Okay GM and Toyota, it's now your turn

Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10707 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:47 am to
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The 5.0 is the last motor being offered that I want. Unfortunately the F150 have tons of problems with everything else on the truck.


The 5.0 in the f150 now has an oil bathed kevlar belt running the oil pump. Not a chain. It also has cylinder deactivation. No, you don't in fact want this engine either.

The government is actively ruining reliability and longevity in gas burning cars. This is not by accident.

Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12677 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:48 am to
Still can’t wrap my mind around the fact that the Land Cruiser was brought back with a 4 cylinder engine.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10707 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:50 am to
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frick off I like my new imax Tundra much more power than the old one.


There are no free lunches when it comes to power and displacement.

Your Tundra will NOT last as long as the V8 model.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17221 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:52 am to
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2007 classic silverado 5.3 L with 250,000 miles


quote:

No oil leaks


That’s the first. You should take it to GM for study if your truthful. The cast aluminum oil pan.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71673 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:54 am to
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Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame the frick head EPA figs for forcing unneeded emissions requirements. The tried and true engines can't meet the bull shite regs set by the pinko commie EPA figs.


It's a money grab for them. If they truly cared about the environment, they would understand that having to build entirely new engines and cars for someone ever 5 years is a LOT more taxing on the environment than the little bit higher of emission that the reliable car lets out.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6090 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 9:56 am to
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frick off I like my new imax Tundra much more power than the old one.


Check back in in 15 years with 300k on it. The 2nd gen Tundra's routinely made that with no issues at all.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15666 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:04 am to
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It’s not that simple. Toyota was forced into making the move to improve emissions, etc.


Correct. 5.7 is great for reliability, but she drinks. The EPA mandating certain MPG by a fleet killed them.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15666 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:06 am to
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frick off I like my new imax Tundra much more power than the old one.


Tundras USP was their reliability. Fit, finish, looks, tech, etc. they get spanked. No idea why anyone would drive a new Tundra. Much better options out there now. They don’t really do anything well.
Posted by TheDonald
Washington DC
Member since Dec 2024
546 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:15 am to
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It's a shame, Toyota/Lexus especially. That was my brand for 20 years.


Same here. It really is a shame. I will not own a hybrid or a battery powered car. Caveat….would own battery powered if the recharge time comes into the realm of gasoline refueling. Also, range has to be increased and battery size decreased.

Save that….it’s INTERNAL COMBUSTION for me.

Hello Honda !
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79102 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:16 am to
MGMGA!
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19119 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:19 am to
You can still find ‘21 Tundras with lowish miles for sale now but damn….that MPG.

Also you’ll pay out the nose depending on finishes.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83089 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:19 am to
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The EPA mandating certain MPG by a fleet killed them.

Emissions also
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83089 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:21 am to
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The 5.3 is anemic.


It’s not the most exciting engine but plenty enough power for most people. 350hp was unheard of in a pickup until not that long ago.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15666 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:26 am to
I thought it was the MPG. I know the Trundras have some expensive arse cat converters and I thought that mostly took care of the emissions side but I’m not sure.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19119 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:28 am to
IIC the GXs and Tundras with the V8 we’re around 14 to 19 MPG. And the GX requires premium.

I’ve been thinking of grabbing a 22 GX but that’s the only thing that’s held me back…and they’re still too expensive.
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3518 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:29 am to
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GM will be bloody lucky to survive ten years without ANOTHER bailout. Toyota,
Posted by JimmyRussell
Member since Sep 2022
212 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:32 am to
That's what the cash for clunkers then the Obama Epa restrictions were for. Then we all started to get 6, then 8, and then 10 speed transmissions and auto start stop and afm etc. Now we have a bunch 4 & 6 cylinder trucks and hot garbage that starts at 40+k$. It was never really about improvement.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26397 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:33 am to
I have been very happy with my GMC 6.2L and then this past week I received a recall notice. Due to manufacturing defects some engines crank shaft and connecting rods could fail. Jeez GM.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25584 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:36 am to
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Bring back the Vortec 5.3 L V8


Wife loves her 1996 Z71 truck with that motor - 440k miles on the truck. It burns no oil, runs cool when it is hot, and is very reliable.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9731 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:37 am to
They should just make battery cars from now on.
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