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re: Oh no Pfizer bros. RFK just nuked MRNA vaccine development
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:As was pointed out earlier somewhere in this thread, the OP title is misleading. There was no mention of cutting research for mRNA in cancer and all development is not being nuked. This is what RFK said:
Cutting that funding for cancer research based on the response to the development of a COVID vaccine is horrific.
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We reviewed the science, listened to the experts, and acted. BARDA is terminating 22 mRNA vaccine development investments because the data show these vaccines fail to protect effectively against upper respiratory infections like COVID and flu. We’re shifting that funding toward safer, broader vaccine platforms that remain effective even as viruses mutate.
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:24 pm to RyanMartin835
How retarded is it for the most developed nation in the world to put a non-doctor in charge of health for 330 million people?
Very, very retarded.
Very, very retarded.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:31 pm to TooFyeToFly
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How retarded is it for the most developed nation in the world to put a non-doctor in charge of health for 330 million people? Very, very retarded.
20 out of 26 have not been doctors. I mean,there’s a lot of doctors that work under him. I think he is doing a good job
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:47 pm to Kentucker
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If you’ll do just a bit of research, you’ll find that ivermectin has only been researched in the lab so far. There have been no preclinical trials with animals and certainly none with humans. The lab results are positive for ivermectin’s effect on cancer cells but it has to be determined to be safe before it will ever be allowed to proceed to human clinical trials.
Yea but I know people who have used it and it works.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
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but OML just takes things to another level with his intensity.
The Lost finale was garbage
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:54 pm to TooFyeToFly
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How retarded is it for the most developed nation in the world to put a non-doctor in charge of health for 330 million people? Very, very retarded.
He is among the least qualified people I’ve ever seen. Just spews nonsense repeatedly. If he wasn’t a Kennedy he would not be in the position he is in.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:59 pm to RyanMartin835
You dumb frick, you do realize that MRNA is being used to treat cancer and Alzheimer's.....or are you too dumb to read and figure out things?
This is not a good thing if you have a history of either in your family.
This is not a good thing if you have a history of either in your family.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 4:01 pm to Cosmo
research vaccine shedding.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 4:28 pm to crazy4lsu
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He is among the least qualified people I’ve ever seen. Just spews nonsense repeatedly. If he wasn’t a Kennedy he would not be in the position he is in.
Ahh, I love seeing libs seethe over RFK
Posted on 8/7/25 at 4:40 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Ahh, I love seeing libs seethe over RFK
Sorry you dislike the truth babydick.
For an example of his stupidity, let’s quote this passage from him.
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Here's the problem: mRNA only codes for a small part of viral proteins usually a single antigen. One mutation, and the vaccine becomes ineffective. This dynamic drives a phenomenon called antigenic shift meaning that the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape the protective effects of the vaccine
Do you know why this is stupid? Because antigenic shift is limited to viruses which have a segmented genome. COVID-19 does not have a segmented genome. This is something you are taught in any microbiology class. I guess him being a retard really resonates with you though. Poor thing.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 4:53 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Yea but I know people who have used it and it works.
I understand. The fear of cancer is so great that desperate people will do desperate things. There is a strong history of cancer in my family and if it comes my turn to deal with it, I may take that route, too. I hope your friends benefitted from it.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:02 pm to crazy4lsu
This guy thinks he’s a vaccinologist because he took microbiology in high school lol
Just put the fries in the bag bro.
Just put the fries in the bag bro.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:06 pm to Burt Reynolds
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This guy thinks he’s a vaccinologist because he took microbiology in high school lol
You dumb shite. They aren’t sending their best. Sad.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:07 pm to LSUA 75
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Of course ,you won’t look up any of these people and the successes they had,you would rather parrot the lies put out by the MIC.
That’s not fair since you don’t know me. I’ve lived a long life and I know the arrogance of many in the scientific community. The more power they have, the more arrogant they seem to be. They’re identical to people with power in any other walk of life.
It’s unfortunate that the “system” has no line of communication for what I call the “citizen scientist.” Unorthodox methods of discovery can be just as fruitful as those that cost millions or even billions of dollars. Citizen scientists sometimes discover solutions to medical and technological problems using a layman’s scientific method. I think it’s important to listen to anyone who is seriously trying to solve a problem.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:19 pm to crazy4lsu
You having fun LARPing online as a doctor there bud??
Maybe you’ll regain a few brain cells when RFK takes the poison out of your food.
Maybe you’ll regain a few brain cells when RFK takes the poison out of your food.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:20 pm to Burt Reynolds
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You having fun LARPing online as a doctor there bud??
You poor thing.
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Maybe you’ll regain a few brain cells when RFK takes the poison out of your food.
There is no intervention that will save you from your stupidity. Sucks.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:33 pm to AaronDeTiger
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research vaccine shedding.
Here is something that can be directly addressed here and since ADT has done the reseach he should be able to help everyone long.
I think it would be useful if you were to answer these questions for the ones that haven't done the research:
1. what is viral/vaccine shedding?
2. why is this shedding bad?
3. what exactly is being shed
4. how does a vaccine cause this shedding?
5. how specifically does an mRNA vaccine stimulate the production of the particles that are shed
Posted on 8/7/25 at 7:31 pm to crazy4lsu
Because antigenic shift is limited to viruses which have a segmented genome.Covid does not have a segmented genome”.
Dr.Geert Vanden Bossche,virologist from Belgium would disagree with you.
In a July 7,2022 paper he wrote:The resulting enhanced viral transmission is likely to ignite new pandemics,not only of new,highly infectious and ANTIGENICALLY SHIFTED SarsCovid-2 variants( typically labeled as “variants of concern”) but also avian influenza virus and monkeypox virus.
As a background ,in 2021 ,he wrote an open letter to the WHO warning them not to institute a mass vaccination program in the midst of the Omicron pandemic.His fear was that that the mass vaccination program would accelerate the rate of mutations which respiratory RNA viruses are prone to do anyway.
I remember reading every week of new variants and sub-variants.
Again in the July 7,2022 paper he wrote:”The mass vaccination program
has driven natural selection and adaptation of more infectious SARS-Cov-variants that have evolved to causing enhanced susceptibility of vacinees,
due to antibody-dependent enhancement of infection;(ADEI).”
Another thing he wrote “In addition,SC-2 variants may also spill over from these human reservoirs to several other immunologically naive animal species ,many of which have a reasonably high level of sequence homology in their ACE-2 receptors.”
He was right about this also.
On 12/21/23 a paper from Medscape :”Scientists have found the coronavirus in 29 kinds of animals,including household pets,livestock,and wildlife,including cats,dogs,ferrets,gorillas,hamstersnhippos,mice,otters,pigs,rabbits and tigers”
“Scientists have expressed concern about research that shows some animals -such as mink and deer-appear to be able to spread the virus to humans.”
Maybe you mis-heard in microbiology class.
Also,you could benefit from looking up Geert Vanden Bossche,PhD.
Dr.Geert Vanden Bossche,virologist from Belgium would disagree with you.
In a July 7,2022 paper he wrote:The resulting enhanced viral transmission is likely to ignite new pandemics,not only of new,highly infectious and ANTIGENICALLY SHIFTED SarsCovid-2 variants( typically labeled as “variants of concern”) but also avian influenza virus and monkeypox virus.
As a background ,in 2021 ,he wrote an open letter to the WHO warning them not to institute a mass vaccination program in the midst of the Omicron pandemic.His fear was that that the mass vaccination program would accelerate the rate of mutations which respiratory RNA viruses are prone to do anyway.
I remember reading every week of new variants and sub-variants.
Again in the July 7,2022 paper he wrote:”The mass vaccination program
has driven natural selection and adaptation of more infectious SARS-Cov-variants that have evolved to causing enhanced susceptibility of vacinees,
due to antibody-dependent enhancement of infection;(ADEI).”
Another thing he wrote “In addition,SC-2 variants may also spill over from these human reservoirs to several other immunologically naive animal species ,many of which have a reasonably high level of sequence homology in their ACE-2 receptors.”
He was right about this also.
On 12/21/23 a paper from Medscape :”Scientists have found the coronavirus in 29 kinds of animals,including household pets,livestock,and wildlife,including cats,dogs,ferrets,gorillas,hamstersnhippos,mice,otters,pigs,rabbits and tigers”
“Scientists have expressed concern about research that shows some animals -such as mink and deer-appear to be able to spread the virus to humans.”
Maybe you mis-heard in microbiology class.
Also,you could benefit from looking up Geert Vanden Bossche,PhD.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 7:40 pm to LSUA 75
Yeah, he is just a regular moron who is anti-vax. He is still wrong about COVID.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 7:49 am to Kentucker
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That just isn’t the case. Even if it “escapes” the area of vaccination, it is broken down so quickly that it doesn’t have time to accumulate elsewhere. Billions of shots using mRNA have been distributed and it has the safest record for all types of vaccines.
Bret Weinstein articulates the risk side of the mRNA mechanism very well.
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