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re: Oh no Pfizer bros. RFK just nuked MRNA vaccine development

Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:05 pm to
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Mingo v pride v crazy was bad enough, but OML just takes things to another level with his intensity


I thought the short jokes were good but OML is like an estrogen-secreting tumor. He is like the right wing version of that lady screaming at the sky meme but for everything.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:06 pm to
Sorry dude, we gotta trust Grok here, especially if he's an authority that you would use.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41754 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:09 pm to
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The problem wasnt the vaxx.


I’m not so sure about that.

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It was forcing people to take it


True

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It may well be useful technology for the future


We will see.

I am doubtful.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Mingo v pride v crazy was bad enough, but OML just takes things to another level with his intensity.


Yeah, we should just let the 14.9 million excess mortality deaths since 2020 slide and not look into it at all. Those are Holocaust numbers by the way, and more than twice the number of Jews that were killed. That number and the blatant lies we’ve been fed the past five years is exactly why RFK is now head of the HHS.

Plus I’m on a roll today because my Dad’s best friend (pretty much my second father outside of my father in law) just mysteriously died on the beach and we’re not sure why yet. I’m going to be interested in that autopsy and see if there are any mysterious strings in his bloodstream. Sure as shite never crossed my mind that he was going to die within the next decade.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 7:04 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:13 pm to
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I like to think they let OML out of lockup just for this thread.


I requested it a few weeks ago for the Superman thread, but didn’t log back on until today after that movie’s opening weekend. Thank you to the mods!
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29979 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:20 pm to
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He knew you couldn’t get it from fricking body contact or the air. That’s what he’s saying there and that people with HIV should be treated like fricking lepers. It was evil and just the start of his reign of terror and mass murder.


You are horrible with technical rhetoric. To make that statement you have to show when that clip was recorded because for the majority of 1983 casual contact had NOT been ruled out by scientific study. If you can't show the date you simply can't support your accusation.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36178 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Mingo v pride v crazy was bad enough, but OML just takes things to another level with his intensity.


I’m not a certified crazy person, I just frick around.

I thought for sure he had offed himself or given himself a heart attack since hadn’t been posting (God forbid)

I guess he was just banned
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8481 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:27 pm to
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Yeah, we should just let the 14.9 million excess mortality deaths since 2020 slide and not look into it at all. Those are Holocaust numbers, by the way, and more than twice the number of Jews that were killed. That number and the blatant lies we’ve been fed the past five years is exactly why RFK is now head of the HHS.


Okay, so you can throw out insane numbers of deaths “from the jab” but mock the wild death counts from those claiming covid deaths.

Ngl you all sound ridiculous like you’re all experts

Edit: yes, COVID sensationalists and anti-vaccine lunes
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:33 pm to
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Invermectin is being used in a clinical trial currently which will conclude in mid-26.


Is this a clinical trial for use as a cancer treatment or as a vaccine for covid to which you’re referring? The thread’s conversation has drifted to other uses for mRNA. I know that many clinical trials involving ivermectin have already been completed, and many have concluded that it does not show significant benefits for treating COVID-19. I don’t know of any clinical trials, or even preclinical trials with animals, for ivermectin as a cancer treatment.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:38 pm to
Currently, there is one active clinical trial (NCT05318469) investigating ivermectin in combination with balstilimab or pembrolizumab for metastatic triple-negative breast cancer. This Phase I/II study is evaluating the safety and efficacy of ivermectin when combined with these immunotherapy drugs. The study is specifically looking at patients with metastatic triple-negative breast cancer who have progressed on prior therapies.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Okay, so you can throw out insane numbers of deaths “from the jab” but mock the wild death counts from those claiming covid deaths.


Where did I blame the jab for that? And my “insane number of deaths” where did I get that from? Oh I don’t know, how about the World Health Organization.

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New estimates from the World Health Organization (WHO) show that the full death toll associated directly or indirectly with the COVID-19 pandemic (described as “excess mortality”) between 1 January 2020 and 31 December 2021 was approximately 14.9 million (range 13.3 million to 16.6 million).


And that’s just through December 2021. Imagine where we are now, and no the death toll is not cutting off the terrorist organization known as USAID.

I remember back in March 2020 when all this started I respectfully asked: “Wait a moment, what about the supply chain? Won’t disrupting that kill millions of people?” And their response: “Shut up, Grandma Killer! Just listen to the Experts™ because they know everything! So shut up and do as you’re fricking told or else you’re trying to kill us all. Also it’s perfectly fine to riot in the streets over Saint George Floyd, but if you peacefully protest for your business being reopened, then you’re a mass murderer.”
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:47 pm to
Thank you. I didn’t know about that one. I’ll read up on it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:49 pm to
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You are horrible with technical rhetoric. To make that statement you have to show when that clip was recorded because for the majority of 1983 casual contact had NOT been ruled out by scientific study. If you can't show the date you simply can't support your accusation.


Name the person in the early HIV days that had gotten HIV not through sex, heroin use, or a blood transfusion? That was off the table within five seconds of it being spread through the air or body contact. Fauci knew damn well what he was doing.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4582 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:59 pm to
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guess he was just banned

For the last 6 months
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38270 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:07 pm to
It’s nice to see that his time away mellowed him out a bit


Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29979 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Name the person in the early HIV days that had gotten HIV not through sex, heroin use, or a blood transfusion?


You are horrible at asking questions, or you just always argue IRL with idiots. That question is not relevant. It is not relevant if a person at the time he made the statement HAD contracted HIV outside the accepted transmission vectors today; it is salient if any people were THOUGHT to have contracted HIV through other vectors. Other vectors were still considered possible until late '93 and many scientists thought it might be possible well after that. We still have the unexplained case of Acer's patients.

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That was off the table within five seconds of it being spread through the air or body contact.


Poor unspecific phrasing but you are simply trying to rewrite history using hindsight.

If you can show the statement was made after the conclusion that casual contact did not lead to the transmission of HOV was published then I will concede you have at least an argument. Without knowing that date and the date of publishing of that information neither of us can know whether you are correct or not. Find and support the date he mafe the statement and I will find the exact date of the publishing of the information. Until then just accept you can not support this point except with your feels which we all know is 90% of your thought process which is why you don't mely you sublimate on issues like this.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9376 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:08 pm to
I thought he was talking about flattening curve of infections (symptomatic not false positives due to cycle threshold being too high until fall 2021) not just deaths.

Regardless one graph looks to be covid death %s of weekly total deaths that began to rise during winter and the cold and flu season and begins to lower closer to March. The nursing home death %s looks like they are getting back to pre-winter levels. Other variables involved there including total deaths for everything need a more extensive look than just one winter after vaccine available. The daily death numbers including the unvaccinated show a steeper decline in all covid deaths for that same time period in the 2nd graph.

With 2nd graph what caused the big jump in daily deaths starting in April with unvaccinated that also started to lower thru May and got back to April 1st levels just after June 1st in unvaccinated people is interesting. The initial separation between the 2 starting in mid February seems more natural and possibly due to vaccine with the most vulnerable than the big spike and then drop looks.

Neither takes into account people from both groups who had true prior infections including forming antibodies or includes the number of people fully vaccinated for at least several weeks. I don’t remember the vaccine being fully rolled out until maybe April or May 2021. The continued separation of covid deaths honestly needs more time after beginning of July to get more non-vulnerable vaccinated and some per capita numbers with fully vaccinated total numbers accounted for during same time frame. There will still be a difference, but the difference may not seem as large as 2nd graph makes it out to be.

That the US mandates didn’t allow for true prior infections with antibodies to be exempt from vaccination requirements justifies any questioning of intent and justification behind the mandates. Govts can’t claim science while mandating a vaccine while also ignoring the science behind vaccines.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4621 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:06 pm to
“many have concluded that it does not show significant benefit for treating
Covid-19.”

Maybe the trials of ivermectin were designed to fail.The trials for hydroxychloroquine were,pts.in trials were given massive doses much higher than therapeutic and predictably cardiac irregularities showed up.
That was the excuse to not use hydroxychloroquine,”it was too dangerous,”
“could kill pts”
Nevermind that millions of people have taken hydroxychloroquine for malaria prevention,used frequently for arthritis and is a mainstay drug for the treatment of lupus.Has proven to be very safe.
Back to ivermectin,Dr.Mary Talley Bowden and Dr Robert Apter treated over 9,000 pts with ivermectin with a survival rate of more than 99%.

Dr.Joseph Varon was the director of an ICU in Houston and had the highest survival rate of any ICU in the country-95% vs 75 % for other ICU’s.One of the things he used was ivermectin.Pts. in ICU’s were typically very sick when they got there.He recieved an award for his life-saving work from the city of Houston.

Of course ,you won’t look up any of these people and the successes they had,you would rather parrot the lies put out by the MIC.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66185 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:42 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105934 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:02 pm to
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It is both safe to use, but I've repeatedly said that those shots should have been cumulative as the virus transformed in order to limit its genomic potential. If you remember, one of the arguments for mRNA vaccines was that you could change the sequence as needed. That is the entire benefit of the technology, and why it has promise as a cancer therapy.

Glad that you remembered the scope of my opinions.


It’s also worth noting that part of the reason they went with mRNA vaccines was because the framework was already developed because of research in cancer vaccines with an mRNA basis. It was a beat the clock scenario.

As for OP, my Mom participated in Moderna’s mRNA trials for metastatic breast cancer (she was terminal and wanted her experience to benefit the science). Cutting that funding for cancer research based on the response to the development of a COVID vaccine is horrific.
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