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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by MikeBRLA
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:52 pm to
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Why wouldn't there be a cam in all cockpits? Streamed to a server so they can go and look in on things like this


They would send live black box data back to land long before they could send live video. And live black box data would be much more useful information anyway. They do this on most combat military planes now.

The reason it's not done on commercial planes is simply a question of money.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:52 pm to
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Had to be some newfangled terrorism. Suitcase EMP. Would explain transponder going off, no comm, no signals, and strange flight path. That plane glided into the water quietly with no working electronics.

I don't know.



The size EMP you would need would blow the plane apart to knock out all of the systems. You got to remember, an EMP is a bomb first, so to generate the surge large enough to damage everything on the plane, you would need that level of energy created from the bomb.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:52 pm to
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Malfunction of the plane.

Trying to turnaround and find the airport without communications. We won't know without a black box.
If that were the case, I'm pretty sure the pilots would've realized they had missed the airport once they had passed over the entire country of Malaysia, to the Straight of Malacca. LOL
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:54 pm to
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Also no employee would go for being on camera. Doctors aren't under constant watch when performing surgery.



Most modern oil rigs have a camera just over the driller's head that records and streams 24/7.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:55 pm to
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If that were the case, I'm pretty sure the pilots would've realized they had missed the airport once they had passed over the entire country of Malaysia. LOL


Assuming they were conscious at that point.

Also, I think people are making a straight line from the last know transponder location in the South China Sea to the last military contact in the strait. I have yet to see an actual flight path after the last communications contact, just a point at where the military says they last saw them.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:56 pm to
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Most modern oil rigs have a camera just over the driller's head that records and streams 24/7.


It records the drillers himself or the equipment?
Posted by Mac
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:56 pm to
I threw out the EMP theory this morning when The Doc and WDE were having a shitfit.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:59 pm to
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It records the drillers himself or the equipment?



Both.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 7:00 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78213 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:01 pm to
That job would suck. Recording what I do an monitoring my equipment is one thing. Actually recording me is awkward and creepy.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4123 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:03 pm to
General question - So if the transponder is turned off does that mean the black box is turned off?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:06 pm to
I don't think it's possible to turn black box off.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39465 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:08 pm to
Doc would have lost all credibility on that one this morning, if he had any to begin with
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16712 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:08 pm to
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General question - So if the transponder is turned off does that mean the black box is turned off?


No, turning off the transponder is a simple flip of a switch. Getting to the black box requires much more work and is normally done on the ground.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:09 pm to
It's a high stress environment with enormous consequences if mistakes are made. Sometimes the people that make the mistakes aren't there to tell about it after.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78213 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:12 pm to
No lie, guess they need to put some cameras on these guys then.



Just heard that the 777 has some sort of ram jet generator that can be deployed in order to make enough electricity to power the basic needs. That is pretty sweet.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:20 pm to
LINK

LINK

Everything you should know about "black boxes"/ Flight Data and Voice Recorders.

Cliff notes.

Very few currently stream live data from plane.

Collects last 25-30 hours of data.

There are no radio beacons transmitted from boxes after a crash.

There is a acoustic pinger (for sonar detection) that activates upon contact with water and will ping underwater for at least 30 days. Nothing else is transmitted from the boxes after a crash.

Has nothing to do with the transponders and cannot be turned off.


Emergency locator transmitter (ELT) beacon is a totally different unit.

This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:22 pm to
Has anyone mentioned aliens again lately? Percentages keep rising.
Posted by learnthehardway
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Member since Oct 2007
10023 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:35 pm to
Exactly!!
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:36 pm to
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EA6B




You need to post this info every three pages. Seems this stuff gets asked over and over and over.
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