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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
Suicide wouldn't require all that.

I'm leaning toward theft.
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
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You still going with the Maldives theory moron?


You and Napoleon play nice.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
I would place hijacking and aliens above plane malfunction. Imo
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:56 am to
Sounds about right token.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:58 am to
What about attempted hijacking from one of the pilots? The other pilot fights him off and knows he has to down the plane as a last ditch effort to save a city from a suicide plane bomb? Kill hundreds to save thousands.

I love playing devils advocate in this. Just spitting off whatever crazy shite I can think of.
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:59 am to
Or even some type of cover-up based upon the cargo on the plane, who took it, where it landed or crashed.

Cover-up?

And that pilot was related to jailed dude.

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After previously denying he recognised the pliot's name, opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim admitted that Malaysia Airlines MH370 Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah is related to his son-in-law.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:59 am to
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4 Possibilities

1. Mechanical Malfunction - 5%

2. Pilot Suicide - 20%

3. Hijacking - 25%

4. Twilight Zone time warping thing/it's cloaked - 50%

FIFY and #4 offers the only evidence - it's invisible....as ridiculous as it sounds
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:01 am to
Possible but then why the course changes?
If it was a pre programmed setting to return to an airport then why did that flight path take them away from any airport?
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:01 am to
Off topic, but general airline question here, and since there are knowledgable (or those who pretend to be knowledgable) folks in here I thought I'd ask instead of starting a new thread...

Do airlines have to file some sort of incident report for minor things that go wrong, and are those incident reports public? As I've been following this thread, I've also been reading up on lots of these past crashes, and for some reason it fascinates me.

It brought to mind a few years ago, when I was on a SW flight landing in Denver, and when we were just a few hundred feet (just a wild guess) from landing, the pilot gunned the shite out of it, we lifted back up, circled around, and then landed "again". I'm just curious about what happened there. I'm sure it's not an extremely rare event, but I've flown a fair amount of times over the years, and it's only happened to me that one time. Maybe the maneuver is routine, but I'm curious about what happened and if SW has to write some sort of incident report (and make it public?) for something like that.
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:02 am to
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I would place hijacking and aliens above plane malfunction. Imo

The alleged aliens have no use for a fully loaded Boeing 777 IMO. That leaves hijacking.
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:03 am to
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Do airlines have to file some sort of incident report for minor things that go wrong, and are those incident reports public?


Some kind of incident happened with this plane and there is reporting on it. But it's not clear.
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:03 am to
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It brought to mind a few years ago, when I was on a SW flight landing in Denver, and when we were just a few hundred feet (just a wild guess) from landing, the pilot gunned the shite out of it, we lifted back up, circled around, and then landed "again". I'm just curious about what happened there. I'm sure it's not an extremely rare event, but I've flown a fair amount of times over the years, and it's only happened to me that one time. Maybe the maneuver is routine, but I'm curious about what happened and if SW has to write some sort of incident report (and make it public?) for something like that.

Wind shear during a storm or unstable weather. I've had that experience. I remember the feeling beforehand of dropping like a rock.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:11 am
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:04 am to
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It brought to mind a few years ago, when I was on a SW flight landing in Denver, and when we were just a few hundred feet (just a wild guess) from landing, the pilot gunned the shite out of it, we lifted back up, circled around, and then landed "again". I'm just curious about what happened there.


He either missed his mark or there was another plane on the runway.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:05 am to
Go arounds are common and not considered incidents by the NTSB.
If a pilot doesnt like the landing or something about the landing he can go around.

Now if he landed hard and a tire blew or he over shot the runway but was still able to taxi, those would be incidents.as all mechanical malfunctions are recorded in the log and all ground mistakes are logged by the ntsb.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:05 am to
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It brought to mind a few years ago, when I was on a SW flight landing in Denver, and when we were just a few hundred feet (just a wild guess) from landing, the pilot gunned the shite out of it, we lifted back up, circled around, and then landed "again". I'm just curious about what happened there. I'm sure it's not an extremely rare event, but I've flown a fair amount of times over the years, and it's only happened to me that one time. Maybe the maneuver is routine, but I'm curious about what happened and if SW has to write some sort of incident report (and make it public?) for something like that.


Not extremely common, but has happened to me a couple of times. Both times the pilots apologized on the intercom saying they didn't like their landing speed and angle or something like that.

Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:05 am to
The exact same thing happened to me on a SW plane landing in Nashville. I was sitting next to a retired air traffic controller and he said it would be put on his record.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:09 am to
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He either missed his mark or there was another plane on the runway.

This was my thought. The scarier of the two is another plane on the runway.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:10 am to
I've flown over 200,000 miles in the last 3.5-4 years, experiencing ~250 takeoff and landings, and that has never happened to me. My dad has flown on a plane a handful of times in his life, and it has happened twice to him. Better him than me.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:11 am to
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Wind shear during a storm. I've had that experience.

Didn't feel anything abnormal. I remember it was a record HOT day in Denver. Don't think there were any storms around, but who knows...

quote:

Go arounds are common and not considered incidents by the NTSB.

Oh well.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:14 am to
Why would a go around be put on a pilots record?
He may note it in his log, but generally it is done to make passengers safer.
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