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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
Watching news: Pretty good idea this happened.

1. Pilot disables tracking systems
2. Plane ascends to 45,000 feet. Cellphones get no signal. This causes oxygen masks to drop - masks last 15 minutes - then all passengers asphyxiate.
3. Then a quick nose dive to 5,000 feet to restore oxygen and get below radar.
4. Cell phones are no longer a threat because passengers are dead.
5. Fly and land plane at destination 7 hours away.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5279 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Plane ascends to 45,000 feet. Cellphones get no signal. This causes oxygen masks to drop - masks last 15 minutes - then all passengers asphyxiate.

So pilots get more oxygen? If they ran out of oxygen would the pilots not die too?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:19 pm to
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So pilots get more oxygen? If they ran out of oxygen would the pilots not die too?


I would assume so...or they were prepared with more oxygen before hand.

A TSA guy was on FOX saying this is looking more and more like a legitimate conspiracy.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84900 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:20 pm to
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2. Plane ascends to 45,000 feet. Cellphones get no signal. This causes oxygen masks to drop - masks last 15 minutes - then all passengers asphyxiate.


No reason to do that when the pilots could just put on their masks and drop pressure themselves.

The 45k jump, if its accurate, is one of the more unexplained maneuvers.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16739 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:24 pm to
The pilots could have brought their own oxygen tanks and masks (small enough to fit in their bags).
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:24 pm to
4. Cell phones are no longer a threat because passengers are dead.

WRONG! Statistics show over 30% of passengers leave their phones on during flights.
And that's the issue I've struggled with on this possibility. All it would take is ONE phone on and it would ping at low altitudes near land.
So now you need me to believe that the pilot went thru every passengers bags/pockets/etc and disabled every phone? NO way, not while he also had to everything else needed.

Unless someone has a simple way to disable all signals to and from cells on plane, this scenario remains impossible
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74172 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:26 pm to
Pilot have full masks which last a lot longer. Crew have masks with a longer use as well.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74172 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:27 pm to
There is a simple way. Google cellular jammer, hospitals use them.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:27 pm to
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WRONG! Statistics show over 30% of passengers leave their phones on during flights.


Yeah...but they don't get signals at that height over areas with no towers.

That's been established.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84900 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

The pilots could have brought their own oxygen tanks and masks (small enough to fit in their bags).



Why? They have unlimited Oxygen on board... Passenger masks last for like 15m, but theirs have no limits.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45106 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:31 pm to
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because they were looking at cars, watching that particular transaction. A plane following a commercial route at a time when none is missing or non responding wouldn't raise that much suspicion.
Yes but we would have recorded surveillance. We have that 24/7 so we could easily review the data from that day and see if that fricking plane was in the area or not. I guarantee we already know if it was or wasnt in/near any of the 'stans.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:34 pm to
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Yeah...but they don't get signals at that height over areas with no towers.

That's been established.


Can't stay up in the air forever guy! I'm talking when they approach other countries at 5k ft and lower. ONE ping blows the whole plan to shite
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105188 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:34 pm to
The latest: Search expands to Australia and Kazakhstan; Malaysia backs off on implicating pilots
LINK
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Can't stay up in the air forever guy! I'm talking when they approach other countries at 5k ft and lower. ONE ping blows the whole plan to shite


A ping over the indian ocean?

There was plenty of time to remove batteries from dead passengers' phones.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12500 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:40 pm to
264 Pages in 10 Days.

If you look at how long it took to find the majority of the remains from Air France (2 years), we are looking at...

264 pages / 10 days = 26.40 pages per day

26.40 * (365*2) = 19,272 pages

:jump1:
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:40 pm to
A ping over the indian ocean?

There was plenty of time to remove batteries from dead passengers' phones.


So you want me to believe that 1 or 2 guys went thru every bag/pocket/purse/carry-on/ etc and removed the batteries from all cell phones or other GPS enabled device (laptops). BEFORE they flew low over a country like Malaysia or any other with cell towers?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:42 pm to
MEGATHREAD
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

So you want me to believe that 1 or 2 guys went thru every bag/pocket/purse/carry-on/ etc and removed the batteries from all cell phones or other GPS enabled device (laptops). BEFORE they flew low over a country like Malaysia or any other with cell towers?


I don't care what you believe. It's very possible to clear those electronic devices while flying over an ocean.

Not sure what's so hard to buy about that...
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

MEGATHREAD


I said 5 year stickie
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2508 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:01 pm to
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So pilots get more oxygen? If they ran out of oxygen would the pilots not die too?


3.5 hrs at 25k, so slightly less the higher you get.
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