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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:47 pm to
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In 2005, Helios Airways Flight 522 veered only slightly off course on its short hop from Cyprus to Greece, but the crew was ignoring all radio transmissions. After 19 attempts to contact the passenger jet, two F-16s scrambled to intercept the rogue airplane. As they flew alongside Flight 522, the F-16 pilots noticed that the captain's chair was empty, the copilot was lying motionless, and oxygen masks were dangling from the ceiling.

Everyone on board was dead.

Hours after most of the 117 passengers and crew had suffocated, the autopilot remained engaged as the F-16s escorted the ghost plane until it crashed into a hillside in Greece. Subsequent investigations proved that the pilots had failed to pressurize the cabin, but simple explanations could not possibly satisfy those who revel in the possibility of a haunted aircraft.


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Could have died like that, it's a peaceful death at least. You sleep first.
Posted by RebelOP
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:59 pm to
Didn't know pilots had so much more control than just going up and down.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

In 2005, Helios Airways Flight 522 veered only slightly off course on its short hop from Cyprus to Greece, but the crew was ignoring all radio transmissions. After 19 attempts to contact the passenger jet, two F-16s scrambled to intercept the rogue airplane. As they flew alongside Flight 522, the F-16 pilots noticed that the captain's chair was empty, the copilot was lying motionless, and oxygen masks were dangling from the ceiling.




Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:06 pm to
I'm not sure when the reports said they climbed to 40,000+ ft and then descended back to around 30,000ft. Could that be the plane climbing because of the Himalayas headed towards their destination. That's if they were heading west then went north through Bangladesh. I'm probably wrong in every single detail but I can't remember all of them in this thread. This whole thing is fascinating just like the Boston Bomber thread.
Posted by MC5601
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:08 pm to
I think they landed on mt Everest
Posted by ninthward
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:09 pm to
those are some erie picts ^^
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:09 pm to
I think the changes in altitude were from the Malaysian radar
Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:11 pm to
If it hit Everest then we would never find out what happened. Already littered with dead bodies that they can't get.
Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:13 pm to
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I think the changes in altitude were from the Malaysian radar


That's what I was wondering. Couldn't remember if it was seen on radar climbing or that the engines recorded that data.
Posted by #1TigerFan
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:15 pm to
EA6B,

If the transponder is not transmitting, where are they getting the altitude information from?
Posted by BeerCity
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:16 pm to
Creepy pictures. There is something fascinating about airline disasters.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:18 pm to
They did report early on that they got some of the altitude data from the engines. Just not sure if that was completely debunked or not.
Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Creepy pictures. There is something fascinating about airline disasters.


I feel the same way. Like the one where the young girl survived after their plane came apart at 35,000 ft or so and landed in the Amazon still strapped in her chair next to her mother. Took her like 10 days to walk to civilization. Luckiest/craziest survival story I've heard.
Posted by Da Sheik
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:28 pm to
Israel ain't playing, they are getting ramped up just in case.

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Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:31 pm to
I don't blame them. Big time target in that area
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:33 pm to
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If the transponder is not transmitting, where are they getting the altitude information from?


I am as confused as anybody at this point, but I think it was the military air defense radar which probably has capability to determine altitude by using a system that scans in the vertical and horizontal planes. Then there is the engine data packets that were sent out, lot on conflicting info about them containing altitude information or not.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 7:48 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:34 pm to
Altitude info was gathered from military radar
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:34 pm to
I'd imagine intelligence communities are quickly using satellites to inspect any airport/strip anywhere in thar part of the world.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:37 pm to
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I'd imagine intelligence communities are quickly using satellites to inspect any airport/strip anywhere in thar part of the world.



this was days ago. could have acheived their mission then sent the plane back up and then bailed out with it on autopilot.

So many crazy possibilities out there.
Yes I still think we will find pieces of it in the ocean. But I think we will never learn the true fate of the people on the plane. I think the cockpit recorder is going to yield nothing.

Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Here is a map someone did of radar holes that the plane could have maneuvered around.


Map is even more interesting when you consider that the 200 mile radius coverage circles are for secondary radar coverage with the transponder turned on. The primary coverage with no transponder drops to around 115 miles making it easy to thread the needle and avoid contact.
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