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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:17 am to CatFan81
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:17 am to CatFan81
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Isn't the 777 equipped with a very secure cockpit? It's one of the most advanced airliners on the market.
There were reports the pilot(s) allowed people in the cockpit before.
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:18 am to CatFan81
quote:I dont trust them. Just like an undercover agent, you never know what knid of cards terrorist organizations have up their sleeves.
These were two very experienced pilots. Particularly the Captain. Not likely people that would be involved in anything related to terrorism.
That could be the whiskey talking though.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:19 am to EventHorizon
quote:I beg to differ.
Still doesn't change the range that much if so
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:22 am to J Murdah
It was being tracked for 40 min? So 4h20m instead of 5h. What's the average speed on these guys,
500mph? That would mean 2500 miles vs 2100 miles from point of last contact. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
500mph? That would mean 2500 miles vs 2100 miles from point of last contact. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There were reports the pilot(s) allowed people in the cockpit before.
From what I understand, that was the co-captain and had nothing to do with the captain. She said that she felt safe the entire time she was there.
That's not excusing letting anyone in the cockpit.
This case is just so bizarre.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:25 am to EventHorizon
It's hard to say because the altitude of the aircraft after the dissapearance is unknown, some witnesses say it was flying low ~3,000 ft. if it was that range is much smaller. Hard to say.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:25 am to J Murdah
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I dont trust them. Just like an undercover agent, you never know what knid of cards terrorist organizations have up their sleeves.
Someone that's been a pilot for almost three decades isn't just going to suddenly nosedive his plane into the ocean.
Plus, with todays terrorist organizations, many of them are going to maximum casualties. This plane was headed for one of the largest cities in the world. Crashing into the ocean isn't inflicting the most possible casualties.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:26 am to Golfer
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The US has to know of every runway capable of this plane landing on
I've mentioned earlier in this thread what I thought needed to happen for this theory to work and the above was one of the major hurdles.
I thought a pilot had to be involved (for the diversion theory to work), especially if it was some "secret" runway no one knew about. Some slapdick hijacker, even if he knew where the runway was, couldn't get there without an experienced pilot in the air who is being FULLY cooperative. You can't just hop on a plane and lead someone to fly over your house from 3,000 miles away. Its hard.
Now, if we're talking about a known runway that can handle a 777? We have a VERY small amount of airports that can handle that type of craft in that area. However, putting a gun to pilot and saying "Take me to Hong Kong" is a bit easier than directing him to some secret runway he didn't know about from the air.
If they went to a KNOWN runway, then one of these governments knows exactly what happened and it hasn't been spilled yet, because a 777 going to a known runway unnoticed is frankly, impossible IMO.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 12:29 am
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:26 am to EventHorizon
The cruise speed for a Boeing 777-200ER is ~512 knots, so 4 hours and 20 minutes of cruise flight would equate to a distance of ~2,219 nautical miles.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:27 am to EventHorizon
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It did say 5 hours total, I would think that includes the time it was still being tracked after liftoff. Still doesn't change the range that much if so
It didn't. The article says it continued for an additional 5 hours after its last appearance on radar.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:28 am to CatFan81
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Someone that's been a pilot for almost three decades isn't just going to suddenly nosedive his plane into the ocean.
EgyptAir flt. 990, this was a possibility.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:29 am to RollTide1987
quote:What is their eveidence of that? Can you at lease quote it? Electrical failure and decompression?
The article says it continued for an additional 5 hours after its last appearance on radar.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:30 am to la_birdman
Assuming the Wall Street Journal's report is true, MH370 could be anywhere in the circle below:
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:31 am to RollTide1987
Thanks for the map, that is cool.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:31 am to la_birdman
Why are the planes transponders even able to be turned off? Why aren't they on 24/7 and can't be turned off?
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:31 am to J Murdah
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evidence
Oh Lord.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:31 am to RollTide1987
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It didn't. The article says it continued for an additional 5 hours after its last appearance on radar.
The article says that the plane flew for an additional 4 hours from the point of last contact.
quote:
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
Read a story about a 727 that went missing (actually stolen) in 2003 and has never been located.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:32 am to hg
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Why are the planes transponders even able to be turned off? Why aren't they own 24/7 and can't be turned off?
Pilots may be asked to turn them off at times to unclutter screens/ may need to be turned off if sending false messages
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:33 am to hg
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Why are the planes transponders even able to be turned off? Why aren't they own 24/7 and can't be turned off?
Someone mentioned earlier they are made to be turned off so clear up things for air traffic controllers, especially if a plane is on the ground in a crowded airspace. You don't need that plane to be "on" so you turn off to clear the screen.
Don't take my word for it.
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