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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:33 am to
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:33 am to
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:34 am to
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EgyptAir flt. 990, this was a possibility.


Possibility, but never proven. Dude was seeking asylum and would have said anything.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:34 am to
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U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786. Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.

U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.

But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.

In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.

The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.



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Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:36 am to
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Dude was seeking asylum and would have said anything.
There were 2 Iranians on this flight seeking asylum
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:37 am to
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Someone mentioned earlier they are made to be turned off so clear up things for air traffic controllers, especially if a plane is on the ground in a crowded airspace. You don't need that plane to be "on" so you turn off to clear the screen.


Sometimes they are turned off if there are electrical malfunctions, and excess electronic equipment needs to be temporarily shed.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105180 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:37 am to
The guys on Socnet have a thread going. Mostly speculation just like here, but there's some interesting comments. Here's one LINK

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Yeah, let's not kid ourselves...they know exactly where this fricking plane is and what happened to it. Whatever it is they just don't want everyone else to know. Certain, uh, conduits of information available to me personally that are usually pretty forthcoming during "events" are being very tight lipped.


Entire thread
Posted by MrTide33
Member since Nov 2012
4358 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:38 am to
This things going truly crazy now. We need updated odds on it being in a hangar.

I'd say up to at least 15% at this point.
Hijacked seems to be at least 45%
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:39 am to
Liam Neeson would have stopped this. Why isnt he an air marshall??
Posted by cabinuga
Athens, GA
Member since Aug 2013
39 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:40 am to
What's most interesting about this new revelation is that the plane flew for only 5 total hours rather than the possible 7 hours it carried enough fuel for.

Why would someone hijack a flight only to crash it after 5 hours?
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:40 am to
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There were 2 Iranians on this flight seeking asylum


Sorry, I don't automatically assume that every brown skinned person is a terrorist. Most Iranians hate their current government.

This thread isn't about that flight though. There's no evidence that the Malaysia Airlines flight was terrorism.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:41 am to
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orry, I don't automatically assume that every brown skinned person is a terrorist.
neither do I, and ftr I dont think they were involved.
quote:

There's no evidence that the Malaysia Airlines flight was terrorism
agree.
Posted by MrTide33
Member since Nov 2012
4358 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:42 am to
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What's most interesting about this new revelation is that the plane flew for only 5 total hours rather than the possible 7 hours it carried enough fuel for.

Why would someone hijack a flight only to crash it after 5 hours?


Could have reached destination in 5 hours.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:43 am to
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Sorry, I don't automatically assume that every brown skinned person is a terrorist


That doesn't fit most Iranians. Persians aren't Arabs.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:43 am to
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Why would someone hijack a flight only to crash it after 5 hours?



Particularly when the final destination was Beijing. You know... a city of almost twelve million people.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:45 am to
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RogerTheShrubber



Chill, Roger. Chill.

I'm as caught up in this as everyone else.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:45 am to
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Particularly when the final destination was Beijing. You know... a city of almost twelve million people.
Which makes me think it was hijacked and kept intact for a much larger operation.
Posted by cabinuga
Athens, GA
Member since Aug 2013
39 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:45 am to
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Could have reached destination in 5 hours.


If this is the case, Rolls Royce headquarters would have received an electronic confirmation of landing from the engines automatically. The automatic messages are sent at takeoff, every 30 minutes during cruise flight, and then on landing. Therefore, they know if the flight has either crashed or landed if the WSJ article is true.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:46 am to
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Which makes me think it was hijacked


My belief all along. Sticking with it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70989 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:46 am to
Assuming the facts in this WSJ article are true and you want to entertain the thought of the flight continuing for an additional 5 hours, it's very possible that a hijacker could have landed the Boeing 777 in an undisclosed location for use later on.

That could explain why there was no distress signal, no homing beacon activated, no black box signal sent out, and no distress data sent to the airline. Because the plane never crashed to begin with. It was hijacked and successfully flown to land.
Posted by MrTide33
Member since Nov 2012
4358 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:47 am to
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The automatic messages are sent at takeoff, every 30 minutes during cruise flight, and then on landing. Therefore, they know if the flight has either crashed or landed if the WSJ article is true.


If true, you'd think this would have come out way sooner.
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