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re: Obesity rates in the US have tripled in just one generation

Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:17 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108117 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:17 am to
Acting like bread, potatoes, rice etc isn’t filling and satiating is ridiculous

People are simply glutinous
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
54733 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:18 am to
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I can’t think of a single person I know who has achieved any level of substantial weight loss on a carbohydrate heavy diet.
I wasn't raised on a processed heavy carb diet and when I eat meat and veggies I don't crave carbs. When I eat processed carbs (pretzels, crackers, sliced bread, cereal etc) I literally crave them and want more and more so I will agree there is probably something to that.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28100 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:19 am to
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so many worthless fat retards in the 18-25 range


This is the demographic that is lost.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:19 am to
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We are so far behind the eight ball here that there is no real way to correct this situation anymore.



What's going to happen is that we will see GLP-1 agonists and other incretin memetics prescribed in place of an actual strategy. It's immensely frustrating to see on the ground level. In the obesity literature, it has been described as a pandemic going back to the middle of the last decade. Yet this one no one actually takes seriously at a population-level, and instead leans on nonsensical notions.
Posted by GulfCoastPoke
Port of Indecision
Member since Feb 2011
1107 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:19 am to
The consumption problem isn’t just with food, it is a cultural feature of the US, not a bug in the system.
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4875 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:19 am to
Gee I couldn’t have seen this coming

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:21 am to
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Acting like bread,


Most are highly processed and not satiating

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potatoes, rice


Whole cut/whole grain? Good stuff

I’m not anti-carbohydrate, I’m anti-processed/high sugar food. And, in the current the state of America, most carbohydrate intake is high processed/high sugar and not natural/while grain.

And when you eat those highly processed foods, you burn through sugar quickly leaving you more hungry and feeling like shite which results in most people eating more of the same shite.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29290 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:22 am to
WE really need to go back to the 80s when every woman was doing the Jane Fonda type workouts and the guys were hitting the gym to try to keep up.

Fat-shaming is far better for society as a whole than telling a 400-pound land whale that he/she is brave and perfect just the way they are.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:23 am to
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Look at thin European countries. They eat what they want as well. They just have tiny portions compared to us. People try to over complicate weight gain to either make themselves feel better or to profit off of others.



Except you are seeing obesity rates reaching 20% of adults in Europe too. Something like 120 countries in the world have adult populations with BMI's that are in the overweight zone. No one is trying to complicate weight loss. But you apparently think that I'm using .1% of people. It boggles the mind, given the pattern of disease that is presenting.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43886 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:24 am to
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People spend hours a day on their phones, social media, video games, binging TV shows, etc. That interferes with a healthy rhythm and routine in life and certainly reduces exercise. It also adds to stress, brain fatigue and overeating, and continues the cycle.


You can burn anything if the furnace is hot enough, even Big Macs.

Exercise is the difference here. A perfect example of this are the stairs at work. It pains my soul to see these overweight older people taking an elevator up one or two floors instead of walking up a couple of flights of stairs.

Kids used to ride bikes everywhere when I was growing up. Now the MFers are riding around in golf carts.

To maintain a healthy level of VO2, you need to be doing at least one hard workout per week that leaves you gasping for air. VO2 max is directly correlated to longevity and overall health.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108117 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:25 am to
I ask you, out of 1,000 obese people, how many aren’t in a heavy calorie surplus?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:25 am to
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Look at thin European countries. They eat what they want as well. They just have tiny portions compared to us.


This is a talking point that is outdated. In Western Europe, portion sizes are almost the same size as the US. They do have much less processed food (but increasing) but their obesity rates are increasing as well.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53027 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:26 am to
Fewer people doing physical work, more households with 2 working adults, explosion of fast food/quick service restaurants.

Kids certainly live more sedentary lives than we did growing up. I was amazed during Covid at the number of kids in our neighborhood that I'd never seen before in the decade of living here.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:27 am to
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I ask you, out of 1,000 obese people, how many aren’t in a heavy calorie surplus?



If by heavy, you mean 200-300 calories over what they should eat, plenty. Of those 1,000 obese people who lose weight, what is the rate at which they will likely put that weight back on?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:29 am to
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I ask you, out of 1,000 obese people, how many aren’t in a heavy calorie surplus?



They all are and the highest percentage of caloric intake is simple carbs - and it’s the least nutritionally effective.

Again, you are trying to oversimplify the problem.

It’s like arguing that for a football team to be successful, all it has to do is average more total yards per game and be positive in the turnover margin and when someone asks “how are you going to that?” You answer, “it doesn’t matter how, just do that.”

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76485 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:30 am to
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Of those 1,000 obese people who lose weight, what is the rate at which they will likely put that weight back on?
990/1000
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:32 am to
Lmfao none of my kids are fat, how nice to automatically be a tier above their peers.

Country is literally full of fat pigs waiting for slaughter.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 9:34 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85366 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:33 am to
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Yes, the ultimate goal is caloric reduction but the chances of achieving that are almost zero in a carbohydrate heavy diet. Compliance rates will plummet if people are constantly hungry and feel like shite all the time.


Yeah. Same with fat and sugar.

We eat more of all of them.

Which was my original point about how it’s silly the blame the food pyramid.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108117 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:33 am to
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In Western Europe, portion sizes are almost the same size as the US.
Well, yeh. Which is why I said then”thin” euro countries. The British countries eat like pigs
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:34 am to
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990


Lol, we have different rates from different studies, but the remission rate is significant.

I honestly can't believe that people can see a pattern of illness that is worldwide, that is showing up in a variety of cultures who have entirely different approaches to food, with exponential increases in weight, and then resort to just a thermodynamic calculus alone. It is an exceedingly sloppy method of thinking. There is a major mediating factor here, but we have to insist on some individualized conclusion. It would be ridiculed for any other disease pattern, and yet here we are.
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