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re: NYC bodega owner: "Bring back stop-and-frisk"
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Thats the stupidest fricking thing I have ever read
Conservatives believe in individualism over collectivism, not individual liberty.
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:05 am to lsupride87
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Thats the stupidest fricking thing I have ever read
Retards generally struggle to understand reality.
REpublicans have always favored proactive policing You are just an idiot.
The reason? It works. Proactive policing and mass incarceration cleaned up NYC.
I do not support, but Republicans have always been law and order and you are dumber than Oweo.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:05 am to lsupride87
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Liberals have created a festering anarchy in their cities. It’s their mess to fix
They don't want to fix it. Their goal is anarcho-tyranny. If they let this go long enough, people will finally have enough and get extreme in how they handle things in the absence of govt enforcement. Once that happens, the govt can use that reaction as an excuse to grab even more power.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:06 am to yaboidarrell
Too bad, its racist.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:06 am to yaboidarrell
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:06 am to upgrayedd
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Their goal is anarcho-tyranny.
The actual goal is an authoritarian technocracy. They just need the anarchy in the meantime to force the revolution.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Learn to read retard
REpublicans have always favored proactive policing You are just an idiot.
Yes, republicans have supported that, which is blatantly against the ideals of conservatism, hence why I am calling them hypocrites
They pick and choose when they want to be “conservatives”
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 9:08 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:07 am to lsupride87
Conservatism has never been hyper focused on individual liberty. The church and family have always been the bedrock of American conservatism - the family was the base unit, not the individual. Respecting and adhering to local authority and generally adapting to local norms have always been conservative themes.
As our culture and authorities have moved away from these themes, conservatives have found themselves increasingly isolated, making it more important to pick up the mantle of individual liberty for self-preservation.
As our culture and authorities have moved away from these themes, conservatives have found themselves increasingly isolated, making it more important to pick up the mantle of individual liberty for self-preservation.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:08 am to USMCguy121
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Too bad, its racist.
It can be done without targeting specific races, I just don't know if I have faith enough in the system to trust it would be done correctly.
You know damn well it would end up being used on right wingers. Be cautious about what we allow.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:09 am to Pettifogger
quote:This isn’t true. It’s the bastardization of it by republicans
Conservatism has never been hyper focused on individual liberty.
Conservatism and liberalism are ideals, republicans and democrats claim these ideals respectively, but pick and choose when to apply it.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:09 am to Pettifogger
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Conservatism has never been hyper focused on individual liberty.
This is correct. It was more focused on traditional institutions and preservation.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Conservatives traditionally have always supported proactive policing.
Do conservatives support the Constitution and rights?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
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which is blatantly against the ideals of conservatism,
You;re literally turning into OWEO.
How can an adult be this stupid?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You are arguing American conservatism isn’t rooted in constitutional rights and individual liberties
How can an adult be this stupid?
That is absolute madness
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:12 am to BayouBlitz
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Do conservatives support the Constitution and rights?
Less than liberals, far more than progressives.
There are no more liberals.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:12 am to jamiegla1
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ok, thats cute. any ideas?
You have 5 seconds to comply!
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You know damn well it would end up being used on right wingers. Be cautious about what we allow.
Progressives wont allow it to happen because its """racist.""" The only real recourse that i can see happening is to abandon the cities to their fate and pull a st. george separation where you can.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:14 am to idlewatcher
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What do you suggest then genius?
How about the people in charge do their fricking jobs.
It's simple:
1.Arrest people for committing crimes.
2.Charge them correctly for those crimes
3.Apply correct bail, or no bail if justified
4.Prosecute the crime
5.Sentence guilty parties to the fullest extent of the law
6.Keep those convicted in jail for the maximum time allowed, without unwarranted parole.
7. Aggressively prosecute repeat offenders, along with those who commit crimes while out on bail.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:14 am to lsupride87
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and individual liberties
No, which is why you have liberarians who carry the individual rights banner.
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favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
This is the definition of conservative.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:15 am to USMCguy121
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The only real recourse that i can see happening is to abandon the cities to their fate and pull a st. george separation where you can.
Its happening on small scales.
We really need a third party that actually stands for liberty.
Ron Paul only pulled a few percentage points when he ran
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