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re: NY judge rules patch irrelevant in homicide
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
The comments in the local article are most unkind to the "spank" apparently she instigated the the entire incident and then called her ex and his biker buddies to intimidate her boyfriend.
Skank
Skank
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
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the guy who later died dropped his pistol and took the hammer from the defendant and started beating he defendant in the head with the hammer. While this is going on the defendant is able to pick up the pistol, clear the misfire, and shoot the other guy in the head to stop the hammer attack.
bullshite
He knocked the other guy out with the hammer, picked up the gun and murdered him, then hit himself in the head a couple of times to create that story
That is much more plausible than clearing a gun while being beat on the head with a hammer
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:40 am to Old Sarge
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bullshite
He knocked the other guy out with the hammer, picked up the gun and murdered him, then hit himself in the head a couple of times to create that story
That is much more plausible than clearing a gun while being beat on the head with a hammer
bullshite. Guess you missed the part where the whole thing was caught on video. But keep trying.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
DA got mudchecked...
Everyone loses.
I don't care for any of the groups in the story.
Judges
DAs
Police
Trashy motorcycle riders
Everyone loses.
I don't care for any of the groups in the story.
Judges
DAs
Police
Trashy motorcycle riders
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:43 am to Darth_Vader
I did miss that part. Is the video out on the inter webs?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:47 am to Darth_Vader
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the ball peen hammer is a old school favorite. It's a useful tool on older bikes and can double as a very nasty weapon.
Do you beat the bike if it refuses to start or something? When you buy a bike does the dealer give you a key and a hammer?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:47 am to Old Sarge
I did a Google search using the defendants name. I found several articles all describing the fight in the same way as was described in the link I put in the OP. However, I've not found a link to the video. But having said that, if the video had shown something different than what the news reports described, I'm quite certain by now this would have come to light.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:48 am to Darth_Vader
Cmon Darth, this is not how a normal persons night of having drinks at the bar ends.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:49 am to weadjust
Old car starters as well, beat on a few to make the starter engage in my younger days
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:50 am to weadjust
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Do you beat the bike if it refuses to start or something? When you buy a bike does the dealer give you a key and a hammer?
Older bikes sometimes have a tenancy for the starter to get stuck. When this happens, a couple of light taps from a ball peen usually will make it stop. Old shovel heads were notorious for it. This is why a lot of bikers started carrying a ball peen hammer with them. Of course it was not hard for them to realize it also made a handy weapon as well.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:52 am to Darth_Vader
I remember when I got my first ball peened. Lol what a crazy night. shite was flying everywhere.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:53 am to Old Sarge
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Cmon Darth, this is not how a normal persons night of having drinks at the bar ends.
No it's not. I've had countless nights out at bars and thankfully have never had anything like this happen to me. But what does that have to do with this guy deciding to pull a gun and try to kill this other guy?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:57 am to SabiDojo
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I remember when I got my first ball peened. Lol what a crazy night. shite was flying everywhere.
In all my years I've only seen a ball peen come out once. What it did was ugly.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:00 am to Darth_Vader
Google 'Brother Seed' video and Youtube
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:07 am to Darth_Vader
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This looks to me to be another case of a DA throwing as much shite as possible against the wall to see what will stick, justice be damned.
Prosecutors acting like criminals, IMHO.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:08 am to SuperSaint
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Google 'Brother Seed' video and Youtube
Holy shite.
The one I saw was just one blow. Not sure what even started it. Just heard a commotion not far from us. I looked over just in time to see a guy pull a ball peen hammer out and lay another guy out with one swing to the side of face right next to his ear. It had nothing to do with us so we didn't stick around to find out what happened next.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:24 am to Theboot32
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well why did the dipshit try and hide the gun and i assume flee the scene? if he would have just stayed there and talked to the cops initially and explained what happened he would have been fine im sure. It sure makes you look guilty of murder when you start tampering with evidence
Your entire post literally makes no sense when you factor in....
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The entire fight was caught on surveillance video. Police found an unfired bullet and a spent cartridge on the ground near McMahon.
There should be no question as to what happened. Either he was threatened with a gun first or he wasn't, and if was caught on camera then it's pretty cut and dry.
If this is really how it played out with it being caught on camera and finding the unfired bullet on the scene further justifying having to rack the gun for a FTF, then this judge is a piece of shite and is the reason why are justice system is such a fricking scam.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:36 am to dnm3305
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There should be no question as to what happened. Either he was threatened with a gun first or he wasn't, and if was caught on camera then it's pretty cut and dry.
If this is really how it played out with it being caught on camera and finding the unfired bullet on the scene further justifying having to rack the gun for a FTF, then this judge is a piece of shite and is the reason why are justice system is such a fricking scam.
I blame the DA more so than the judge. In fact, I'd say the judge made the right call in dismissing the charges. As for refiling the charges, is that up to the judge or the DA? I'm thinking that's up to the DA but I could be wrong.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:49 am to Darth_Vader
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I've tried telling folks around here for a long time the ball peen hammer is a old school favorite. It's a useful tool on older bikes and can double as a very nasty weapon.
I remember the forst thread where you did this.
Seriously.
The hazing you received for telling the story of the guy being hit in the jaw was likely worse than the hit itself.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:50 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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So he beat the guy with a hammer then shot him? The difference in self defense and murder imo is after the hammer beating was the guy still a threat? If he is bloody, beaten, and has no fight left then there really is no defense for putting a bullet in him to finish him off.
Id go with manslaughter here
I think you need to re-read exactly what happened. Or maybe you did, and Louisiana's education system is preventing you from comprehending it.
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