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NY issues do-not-resuscitate guidelines for cardiac patients
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:31 pm
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New York state just issued a drastic new guideline urging emergency services workers not to bother trying to revive anyone without a pulse when they get to a scene, amid an overload of coronavirus patients.
While paramedics were previously told to spend up to 20 minutes trying to revive people found in cardiac arrest, the change is “necessary during the COVID-19 response to protect the health and safety of EMS providers by limiting their exposure, conserve resources, and ensure optimal use of equipment to save the greatest number of lives,’’ according to a state Health Department memo issued last week.
First responders were outraged over the move.
“They’re not giving people a second chance to live anymore,’’ Oren Barzilay, head of the city union whose members include uniformed EMTs and paramedics, fumed of state officials.
Just remember.... You’re government has your back
Bring on the glorious socialized healthcare system.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:33 pm to Mike da Tigah
Why waste good paramedics. Just send the coroner?
Also, this is going to help pad those numbers. Lots of covid related cardiac deaths incoming.
Also, this is going to help pad those numbers. Lots of covid related cardiac deaths incoming.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:34 pm to fightin tigers
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Why waste good paramedics. Just send the coroner?
Unless of course it’s you or someone you hold dear, amIright?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:34 pm to fightin tigers
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Why waste good paramedics. Just send the coroner?
Why waste a good coroner, just send a cannibal.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:35 pm to Mike da Tigah
They already rescinded this order, thanks for being late to the party
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:35 pm to Mike da Tigah
Lies...I'm a front line worker who has coded covid patients. Its a complete waste of resources when it gets to that point.
It protects the staff and it ensures drug supplies.
This is not for EMS protocol, this is for people in the ICU setting who have progressed to intubation with ineffective ventilation strategies, failing organs systems, etc.
It protects the staff and it ensures drug supplies.
This is not for EMS protocol, this is for people in the ICU setting who have progressed to intubation with ineffective ventilation strategies, failing organs systems, etc.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:37 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Unless of course it’s you or someone you hold dear, amIright?
What if I hold a paramedic dear?
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:39 pm to Philzilla2k
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They already rescinded this order, thanks for being late to the party
Yeah, faith restored in government, and the kind of people who think they can play God in deciding who gets to stay and who has to go.
Consider this fair warning for what the future holds for this country when it does let government control healthcare.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:40 pm to fightin tigers
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What if I hold a paramedic dear?
Dissuade them from becoming a paramedic.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:52 pm to Mike da Tigah
First, this was never implemented.
However, it is hardly a different logic than re-opening more of the economy quicker even if it that may cost a low percentage of lives.
I believe they said about 1/25 of these resuscitations result in saving a life.
If that low percentage causes medical workers who are stretched extremely thin to be later to the next call and/or risk missing shifts exposing themselves, the overall amount of lives they save probably decreases.
At very leadt it's not such a different logic than I've seen tons of people make about risks in cutting back restrictions.
However, it is hardly a different logic than re-opening more of the economy quicker even if it that may cost a low percentage of lives.
I believe they said about 1/25 of these resuscitations result in saving a life.
If that low percentage causes medical workers who are stretched extremely thin to be later to the next call and/or risk missing shifts exposing themselves, the overall amount of lives they save probably decreases.
At very leadt it's not such a different logic than I've seen tons of people make about risks in cutting back restrictions.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
Dude, they're old and have issues.
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:40 pm to Sao
I talked to my son last week. I told him that his mother and I signed DNR papers years ago.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:51 pm to fr33manator
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Why waste a good coroner, just send a cannibal.
I make a mean Long-Pig Gumbo.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:53 pm to fr33manator
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Why waste a good coroner, just send a cannibal.
Do you want zombies? Because that's how y...
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fr33manator
Eh, you probably want zombies.
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