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re: Nurses at University Medical Center vote to unionize, a Louisiana first

Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3744 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:50 pm to
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Because there is a HUGE shortage!


Even the largest nursing union in the country disagrees with you. There are over 1 million nurses with active licenses who aren’t actively working. We have plenty of nurses. We have too many nurses that don’t want to work or have taken over admin roles within the ever growing healthcare systems/hospital networks across the country.

National Nurses United
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:52 pm to
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importing nurses from Eastern European countries.

Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3236 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:54 pm to
There is a short staffing crisis, but a shortage is coming. Healthcare is in trouble no matter what direction you look from. Things are too messed up to fix and it will take something draconian to right the ship. Like abolishing all insurance. Until you remove the suits that stand between you and the people who care for you, things will not ever be ok again.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
943 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:54 pm to
They don’t wanna work because of the pay lol. Imagine being an ICU nurse working nights managing life saving meds, manage patients family dynamics, and the cherry on top is not everyone is nice to deal with.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3236 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:54 pm to
My question is why they are shopping Eastern European countries....did the philippines run out?
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 11:56 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:56 pm to
You at UCSF mission bay or parnassus?
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3236 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:56 pm to
shite, I am low class in Oaktown baby.

Edit: What's a nurse make in UMC? Just curious...
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
943 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:06 am to
Starting pay was $31 an hour with a 5-10k bonus for some new grads 2-3 years ago.


In comparison, Lululemon shift managers make $29 an hour.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 12:08 am
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
547 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:19 am to
Does the new University Hospital/UMC draw patients with private insurance/Medicare, or is it just a newer version of Charity Hospital and Hotel Dieu (old university hospital) with a patient population ranging from no insurance to Medicaid at best?

It has a better reputation and attracts insured patients for some of the specialty units. I went with a friend to a follow up appointment after she was transferred from another facility to the burn unit there for suspected TEN. I’ve cared for several other patients who were transferred there in the past for significant trauma or other specialty care.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 1:02 am to
Was at Kaiser Oakland few weeks back. The amount of security they have out front for the hospital is impressive. The homeless camp across the street at the park across Broadway is even more impressive tho
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3165 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 2:03 am to
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I’d assume that guy worked hard and is rewarded for his past roles, performance, and credentials.


Oh I don’t begrudge his success one bit. He’s for sure earned it. Just saying that it seems that often these hospital systems are very top heavy with as much administration as care givers.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10624 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:05 am to
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too many nurses that don’t want to work


1. Graduate nursing school
2. Sleep with a doctor
3. Lie about being on the
Pill

4. Profit!
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
15107 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:09 am to
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Louisiana has been short changing nurses for years



This is 100% true.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
15107 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:10 am to
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The hospital my wife works at, is in the process of importing nurses from Eastern European countries.


Is this hospital publicly traded?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11573 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:16 am to
lol angry?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27417 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:17 am to
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did the philippines run out?


Filipinos aren’t coming for 30/hr.

They do make PENNIES in the Phillipines. But they know exactly what they can make and where. They will go anywhere if the price is right. Texas will steal Filipinos just like they will steal LA nurses.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33288 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:56 am to
It's what Louisiana does well......and we do it better than anyone else.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34968 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:59 am to
Don't come in here with your facts, baw.

Nurses aren't paid enough, especially in Louisiana, that's a fact.

Pay more, and you'll have more nurses.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33288 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:04 am to
Bububut a 9% after expenses profit margin is not enough. We need 10%....more Filipino nurses!!!!!!@
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38840 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:13 am to
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Unions aren’t a conservative concept a free market/society says if you don’t like it, go elsewhere or adapt.


Unions fall right into the free market landscape. Why wouldn’t they?
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