re: Number of unmarried young men is surging

What implications? I know straight couples that have had a surrogate because the wife couldn't have a pregnancy.

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I used to think that was gross and f'ed up

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because it is


Find better friends Loser

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What implications? I know straight couples that have had a surrogate because the wife couldn't have a pregnancy.

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How about the commidification of children? The buying and selling of children? They bought a baby and a woman sold the baby.

Thats the only way a gay man can have a baby, is to buy a womb.

Do you want to know what other evils might emerge from that?

Do you want children to be available on the open market? And what if the gay couple refused to take that baby? The baby is UNDER a contract like a used car.

You haven't thought about this in the slightest. Crazy. Our society is about to unravel and no one is going to have a clue why.

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Women got what they wanted. Feminism is infused throughout American and Western societies. Young women are on psychiatric meds at high rates. Women are more miserable than they’ve ever been. It turns out having the responsibilities like men have for thousands of years isn’t all fun and games.

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Funny story that fits here.

My wife decided to leave the workforce 4 years ago when our first was about to be born. She's an FNP, worked hard to get there too. Had a little bit of sunk cost fallacy, so she found a prn job just to keep her head in the game. Kept that job for an about 2 years working 2 saturdays a month for 5 hours a day.

Well things changes and she was now required to work 1 week day a month. Picked up a random Thursday, I took a day off and took the kids to the zoo. She worked 7 to 5:30, got home after a 40 minute drive fighting traffic and was crying like a baby.

Resigned at 9pm that night.

7-5's dealing with the general public, no thanks, I'll take care of my kids.

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They seem happy as can be. The older I get, the less judgemental I have found myself to be.

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Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Its not right, nor natural for two men to go through together raising a child as a "couple"

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Unless its the Odd Couple

Young wives, LOL

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Just my 5 cents, but guys are getting the sex without marriage, so why get married at a young age?

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Which guys? Not the majority of them. A third of men under thirty have never had a date. Sexlessness is at an all time high. The men that are killing it on Tinder are a relatively small number. Its a situation where a large number of women are chasing the same few men. We’ve returned to a mating model where a small number of dominant men are sleeping with a large, rotating cast of women. There’s a book called Sexual Utopia In Power that’s worth a look. Basically its about how the sixties promise of free love combined with feminist ideology made sex more difficult for most men, while making it more available to women, but making them miserable in the process. We’ve ended up in an Arab tribe situation where important men hoover up concubines for themselves, leaving a population of angry, hopeless young men. And large groups of angry hopeless young men is dangerous for any society. The easy availability of porn in the West has tempered this, but North Africa doesn’t have that same availability, which is why you have Arabs chasing down and harassing women in the streets of Paris, Berlin, and Rome. Eventually that anger and hopelessness will manifest on these shores some way.

I didn't say any of that. You're putting words in my mouth.
But, it's not that black and white. Some men are better nurturers than women. I've known women who had zero nurturing skills.

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she found a prn job just to keep her head in the game

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I see...