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NPR: Are Risks of opening schools exagerrated?

Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:24 pm
NPR, yes, National Public Radio, questioned whether locking down schools is a good idea.
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Despite widespread concerns, two new international studies show no consistent relationship between in-person K-12 schooling and the spread of the coronavirus. And a third study from the United States shows no elevated risk to childcare workers who stayed on the job.

Combined with anecdotal reports from a number of U.S. states where schools are open, as well as a crowdsourced dashboard of around 2,000 U.S. schools, some medical experts are saying it's time to shift the discussion from the risks of opening K-12 schools to the risks of keeping them closed.

"As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. ...

Spain's second wave of coronavirus cases started before the school year began in September. Still, cases in one region dropped three weeks after schools reopened, while others continued rising at the same rate as before, and one stayed flat.

Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR...

Some countries, such as Thailand and South Africa, fully opened when cases were low, with no apparent impact on transmission. Others, such as Vietnam and Gambia, had cases rising during summer break, yet those rates actually dropped after schools reopened. Japan, too, saw cases rise, and then fall again, all while schools were fully reopened. But the United Kingdom saw a strong upward trend that started around the time of reopening schools.

"We're not saying at all that schools have nothing to do with cases," Grob-Zakhary said. What the data suggests instead is that opening schools does not inevitably lead to increased case numbers....

Utah's state COVID-19 database clearly reports school-associated cases by district. And while coronavirus spread is relatively high in the state, State Superintendent of Public Instruction Sydnee Dickson believes that schools are not, for the most part, driving spread.

"Where you see cases on the rise in a neighborhood, in a county, we see that tend to be reflected in a school," Dickson said. "[But] we're not seeing spread by virtue of being in school together."

Tom Hudachko of the state's health department said that after both colleges and schools reopened in early September, there was a rise in cases among the 15-24 age group. But with targeted public health messaging those cases have started to come down.

For the most part, Hudachko said, K-12 school clusters have been concentrated at high schools. "We have had some outbreaks in middle schools. They've been far less frequent. And elementary school numbers seem to be one-offs here and there."

And these clusters — including one large reported outbreak with at least 90 cases — have largely been traced to informal social gatherings in homes, not to classrooms. (Álvarez, in Spain, also said that clusters among young people there have been traced to social gatherings, including rooftop and beach parties)....


Link? You want a link? Here is your NPR link.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:25 pm to
Ummmm, yes
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:26 pm to
Really well done piece by them.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:31 pm to
The science has consistently suggested kids should be in school.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:32 pm to
In just a little over a week, the Great Charade will end completely.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:34 pm to
My daughter has been back in school for months with most kids on campus. Zero Rona outbreaks. Kids need to be in school around people their age.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
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In just a little over a week, the Great Charade will end completely.


What do you propose will happen ?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18330 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:36 pm to
My school has had 6 teachers catch covid. All 6 were fine and had mild symptoms. One was a 55 year old fat woman.

We’ve had no big outbreaks. My entire system has had one student catch covid at school (based on contact tracing). One in three months.

Of the few students of mine who have caught it, none had anything serious. Barely a fever. Some congestion. Over it within a few days.

The deleterious effects of isolating kids in desks for 6 hours staring at chromebooks and doing busy work? Massive.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Are Risks of opening schools exagerrated?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48361 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:38 pm to
Kids have almost zero risk of serious effects from Covid. Maybe don't bring them to see mee maw in the nursing home but otherwise send those little shits to school.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:38 pm to
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SuperSaint


I need an update! Did everything go well this week??
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53717 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
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What do you propose will happen ?


The media fear porn that’s been full throttle since February will slow immensely.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:44 pm to
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The media fear porn that’s been full throttle since February will slow immensely.


And the coronabros with the blue check marks on Twitter will find something else to bitch about. The mob will turn its attention to trying to smear Amy.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Evil Little Thing
yep


Tough little guy hit all his benchmarks the first 3 days. Dudes a little champ already


Just spent his first night home from the hospital
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:45 pm to
Our kids school opened early august, unless they’re not emailing us which they usually do... no one has been out for Covid
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48361 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:46 pm to
I remember those days. I'm on the last 4-5 years at this point though. Not sure how me and Mrs Fall are going to handle being empty nesters. It's going to be weird.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:46 pm to
There’s zero data showing it’s a danger to the kids
After a few months of them being open, there isn’t a stack of dead 2nd graders from Covid Bc god knows if there was it would be leading all the news stations 24/7
Posted by Evil Little Thing
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
So awesome Congratulations!
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:55 pm to
I read the title as integrated
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 2:08 pm to
NPR got millions of dollars from the last stimulus bill. They're corrupt as hell
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