re: Nobody wants to work anymore

Or c) your employer never cared in the first place and was knowingly exploiting your lack of experience and information.

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When I worked 4 10's, I never took a sick day. I never needed a vacation. I never felt like I had to take off work just to go to a doctor's appointment or do some kind of basic adult chore. I felt valued, productive, and never got sick of being at work.

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This is exactly what is driving reluctance to give up WFH. In 2+ years of never going to the office I have never taken a sick day, only take vacations in weekly buckets, and get everything done I need to do and still do the same amount of work as before. Or more. Instead of listening to Bob tell me about his fishing trip, I run a load of laundry or do the dishes. Instead of sitting in the cafeteria or surfing the internet at my desk during lunch, I can run errands or go to the dentist.

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Nobody who runs a good company spends time and effort trying to frick over their good employees.

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That's kind of our point. There aren't very many good companies.

There are loads of good companies.

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There's like ~200 million working aged people in the country and there aren't anywhere close to 200 million decent jobs. Probably less than half of that number.

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Define “decent”…I think an immigrant would consider $10/hour decent. Problem is, there’s millions of lazy Americans who would rather do nothing and get paid the equivalent of $12/hour by Uncle Sam

Lowe’s

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Those companies usually fizzle out or stagnate. They eventually land on employees with little motivation or few alternative options.

Nobody who runs a good company spends time and effort trying to frick over their good employees.

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A lot of the most successful companies of all time are famous for this.

Churn and burn. Up or out.

It obviously works for those companies. They are almost unfathomably successful. But let's not pretend they aren't a shite place to spend your career for 99% of their employees.

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All this. I had this work schedule one time in my life and loved it. I left it like a true dumbass for more money. I walked into work every Monday feeling recharged and ready to go. If I had to do it all over again I would of never left.

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I never would have left it had I been given the choice. 4 10's was temporary, and quickly we went to 5 10's, then 6 10's, then 6 12's, then 13 14's. It was madness.

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They are almost unfathomably successful.

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Well let's get them to cater to the people who don't feel the love. Clearly relying on the winners who keep it going is not ideal.

I'm tired. To the lions lurking this thread, kick arse at these companies or wherever you are and don't sweat the lambs.

I’m not talking about commission. All of my employees are salaried plus commission.