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Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:11 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:11 pm to LSUBoo
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One would think that conservatives would be in favor of liberals aborting as many future democrats as possible?
No i want liberals to be miserable and what better way to do that than force them to take responsibility for their actions.
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:12 pm to UninformedPoohead
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i want liberals to be miserable
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what better way to do that than force them to take responsibility for their actions.
So you are in record saying being a parent is miserable?
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:12 pm to BaddestAndvari
If that were true then those jars you keep in your closet surely would have sprung to life by now.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:13 pm to UninformedPoohead
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No i want liberals to be miserable and what better way to do that than force them to take responsibility for their actions.
You're funding that responsibility. I hope you're okay with that.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:13 pm to BaddestAndvari
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Also sperm literally has human dna and all of the markers to "grow and develop" the OP mentioned, so he must also think jacking off should be illegal as well
I'm just genuinely curious where he's at on the spectrum. If his definition of "life begins" is simply the fertilization of the egg but not implantation then it gets awfully complicated.
By his definition, if he's dating anyone on the pill or an IUD then they've potentially had an abortion every 28 days (depending on the pill type). If it's as simple as his perception of science states, then he can't say abortion should be banned without saying all non-barrier methods of birth control should be banned.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:14 pm to BaddestAndvari
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So you are in record saying being a parent is miserable?
Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha? Of course the people who dont want to be parents will be miserable as parents. You libtards arent very smart huh
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:15 pm to UninformedPoohead
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Of course the people who dont want to be parents will be miserable as parents.
Why would they be miserable? Most conservatives constantly argue that parents on welfare make way too much money, so they would be living a comfy life and not even have to work
seems nice to me.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:16 pm to sabes que
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:17 pm to LSUBoo
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You're funding that responsibility. I hope you're okay with that.
Everyone with children is getting some sort of government kickback. Who cares, bring the baby to term
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:21 pm to whodat24
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When we bring up contraception, we are discussing a whole other matter but I will oblige. An individual sperm cell has certain features that allow it to penetrate the ovum, and an individual ovum has features that aid the sperm in doing this. Preventing the sperm from this penetration prevents a distinct organism/life from being formed. Once the zygote is formed, there is a clear and defined process it will follow as this human organism is developing inside the mother's body. Is stopping a human organism in the process of developing killing it? Humans aren't fully developed until 25 or so by your stance preventing the development of a 1 month out-of-womb infant is ok.
While birth control (non-barrier) purposefully tries to make it harder for an egg to fertilize to begin with, it does sometimes still happen. The last "trigger" is to create a situation in the uterus where the zygote cannot implant. But it's still a zygote.
You're saying the science is "simple", that a zygote equals human life that shouldn't be aborted. If that's the case, then do you believe non-barrier contraception should be banned?
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:25 pm to UninformedPoohead
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Who cares, bring the baby to term
What if they can’t and the side effect of that is a life with nearly 0 cognitive or physical function and round the clock medical care and the parents don’t have the means to support that?
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:27 pm to whodat24
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92% of abortions are elective and <.5% are in cases of rape. Why are the exceptions being talked about as the normal?
Because a lot of the laws being passed/changed don't protect those people who are in the 8%. At least that's the argument I've heard a great deal recently.
Just about every person that I've talked to on either side of this argument agrees that they should still be allowed for woman who are at risk if they go through with the pregnancy or other situations like that. But, I am not sure our policy changes are protecting those individuals. Which is sad if true.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:29 pm to jordan21210
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What if they can’t and the side effect of that is a life with nearly 0 cognitive or physical function and round the clock medical care and the parents don’t have the means to support that?
Such rare occurrences are not even worth considering to be quite honest.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:29 pm to whodat24
As a woman who’s been pregnant, it is such a joy and gift to know/feel life growing from the moment I found out I was expecting my child. Nothing sweeter. I truly feel sorry for anyone who doesn’t choose life. It’s a beautiful thing.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:29 pm to UninformedPoohead
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This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:29 pm to UninformedPoohead
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liberals
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take responsibility
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:32 pm to whodat24
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I don't expect anyone on this board to have the ability to argue with me on this.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:34 pm to whodat24
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A sperm cell contains the exact same DNA of the father.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:34 pm to whodat24
OBs and neonatologists and the medical profession are moving the age of viability back every year. 22 weeks at the right hospital and you have a real shot. No reason to believe they won't keep pushing it back.
That's why pro choicers have to stand on abortion until birth - if they give on viability, their position will slowly die away with medical advancements. Sooner or later you have to admit it was always a life. And that's based on science, religion has nothing to do with it.
That's why pro choicers have to stand on abortion until birth - if they give on viability, their position will slowly die away with medical advancements. Sooner or later you have to admit it was always a life. And that's based on science, religion has nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:35 pm to whodat24
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The fertilization-based definition of pregnancy is still the most widely accepted definition of pregnancy in the literature today. While contraception prevents the joining of egg and sperm to create a zygote, abortion kills this already formed zygote. Because of this "fail-safe" method, I do believe the drugs you described are abortifacient in nature. Use condoms and be responsible in your life.
So then you do believe standard birth control is the equivalent of abortion.
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