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re: No Liquidity - Silicon Valley Bank meltdown sparks contagion fears

Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:30 pm to
so a bunch of libs are going tits up?

Good.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:32 pm to
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My wife cashed in a CD from a local bank recently for 100k and got cash no problem



How many 8balls did you buy with that? Don't lie!!!
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3026 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:36 pm to
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f they were that heavy in bonds, such that rates could burn them like that, I'd still say that's risky.


Fair, but you can typically just hold them through their duration and not have to take a loss.

They needed the liquidity, so they sold and took a loss. Not great but the rest appears to be a pretty big overreaction.

Hard to predict the massive tech valuation decline and death of the ipo market requiring VCs to support cash flow negative startups for longer, resulting in significant pressure on their deposit base

I think they just naively thought that while this would hurt earnings and their share price, it would be a bit of a nonevent for their clients. That was most definitely wrong
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93637 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:37 pm to
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My wife cashed in a CD from a local bank recently for 100k and got cash no problem


Guarantee you she didn't walk in and then walk out 5-minutes later with $100k in cash.

A prior business we had we pulled out $25k on a weekly basis and they would need a few hours to pull that together.

That said, they had no issues with me depositing large amounts of cash...
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23815 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:22 pm to
I haven't been day trading stocks lately, but looked at SPY and wondered what happened Fri. Huge drop. I'm sure many lost money outside of those bank members.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37071 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:31 pm to
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Please don't let the feds bail out these guys. Let it burn


The OP says they issued shares to raise funds to shore up the balance sheet.

The company I just left banks with them. CEO is fundraising right now, not a good time for this.
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
2618 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:57 pm to
Shutting SVB down was likely a combination of a number of factors, including inadequate interest and liquidity risk management. The rules they lobbied against could have saved their bacon had it been implemented at a lower total asset size.

Consulting firms are going to rack up and the Fed will adjust the regulations to address the short comings of the current rule
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:13 pm to
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so a bunch of libs are going tits up?



No your bank will be charged extra fees to cover all deposits at SVB. Even those above and beyond FDIC limits.

You are bailing them out. And they hate you too.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:15 pm to
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All those liberal tech millionaires should be happy about this. They’re about to lose their millions and be reimbursed 250k


Nope. No haircut for them. They are made whole by you.
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