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No charges for cop who killed deaf man
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:14 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:14 am
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An Oklahoma prosecutor announced Friday he will not file criminal charges against a police officer in the September shooting death of a deaf man who was not following officer commands.
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Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said his investigation determined the Sept. 19 shooting death of Magdiel Sanchez outside his south Oklahoma City home was justified. After reviewing evidence, Prater said, the shooting was “lawful, reasonable and not excessive.”
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Police have said officers who responded to a hit-and-run crash encountered Sanchez holding a metal pipe. An autopsy report shows Sanchez was hit with a stun gun and shot five times in the chest, pelvis and upper arm.
According to police, witnesses yelled “he can’t hear you” before the officers fired, but they didn’t hear them.
The shooting prompted protests from activists from groups including Black Lives Matter Oklahoma and the Oklahoma Association of the Deaf.
Family members of Sanchez had called for Barnes’ arrest and for state and federal investigations into the matter.
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Sanchez’s family has said he was completely deaf, developmentally disabled, and that he used the pipe as a walking stick. The autopsy found no drugs or alcohol in Sanchez’s system.
Prater earlier this week charged an Oklahoma City police officer with second-degree murder for fatally shooting a suicidal man in a separate case.
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:15 am to TJGator1215
WHAT?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:19 am to TJGator1215
¿Que?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:21 am to TJGator1215
Sounds like the cop’s demands fell on deaf ears.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:21 am to Napoleon
I've got to get one of those badges. Free to do anything with one of those things.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:22 am to shutterspeed
quote:at least he got a hearing
Sounds like the cop’s demands fell on deaf ears
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:24 am to Kafka
Guess the justice system wanted to hear the cop out.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:35 am to starsandstripes
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I've got to get one of those badges. Free to do anything with one of those things.
it's a real get out of jail free card
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:43 am to TJGator1215
Sucks
Wish they had non lethal ways to handle this. Is shooting him 5 times necessary when he’s holding a pipe..
Geez..
Wish they had non lethal ways to handle this. Is shooting him 5 times necessary when he’s holding a pipe..
Geez..
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:45 am to beauchristopher
Helen Keller lived a good, long life.
What's this baw's excuse?
What's this baw's excuse?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:53 am to beauchristopher
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Wish they had non lethal ways to handle this. Is shooting him 5 times necessary when he’s holding a pipe..
I’d imagine there were a number of non lethal ways. I think we jump very quickly to allowing officers leeway on fear for their life and expect citizens to act near perfect in high stress situations they have no training for.
If the public (and by proxy juries) were just a little more demanding on cops showing true risk of life for use of deadly force, and just a tiny bit more relaxed on understanding people aren’t going to follow every direction but that doesn’t make them deadly.... we’d be in a much better spot. Not wild changes, just slight shifts in perspective
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:55 am to TJGator1215
Sometimes you hear the bullet.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:58 am to Loungefly85
quote:has she heard about this?
Helen Keller
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:14 am to NoSaint
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allowing officers leeway on fear for their life
Sometimes I wonder if LE is willing to accept any risk at all.
What perturbs me the most is when multiple officers are there with some guy with a metal pipe or screwdriver and one millimeter movement prompts them to empty a mag in the guy's chest.
How is it that a group of "men" with body armor, knives, tasers, cuffs, batons, and pepper spray, feel compelled to hurl lead with so many other options, especially for these calls like this one where they know they're not trying to chase down a serial murderer or something?
Same goes with their predisposition to shoot dogs.
My friend's father was retired LE. He survived Vietnam and over 30 years with a sheriff's dept. Not once did he ever relay a story that indicated he was overly fearful or on the edge of drawing down on someone in any similar situation.
Are these professionals or cowards? I really hate to be critical of LE, but it just seems that question has to be asked. Also, I know there are some awesome dudes in LE and these situations hurt their reputation as well, as they all get lumped into one category.
Maybe it's time to raise LE salary by 10% or so and dramatically increase the standards or training or something along those lines.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:21 am to TJGator1215
The Thin Blue Lyin' Defense Team
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:22 am to Kafka
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has she heard about this?
No she accidentally answered the iron.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:21 am to starsandstripes
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Are these professionals or cowards?
You know the answer to this question. This is what happens when you put an untrained pussy on the street with a gun.
Like black people, our police officers have been enabled by a society that constantly tells them that they aren't responsible for their own actions.
What's the police equivalent to a dindu nuffin?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:37 am to TJGator1215
I just find it interesting that we have all of these LEO on the "front lines" with way more relaxed ROE than you would ever see in Iraw or Afghanistan. Its like they have all of the fun with none of the responsibility, either in civil (because we all know it is not the officer that will ever pay) or criminal court (when you have a friendly DA that doesnt want to mess up the gravy train, so he looks the other way). It's the ultimate racket.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:39 am to TJGator1215
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completely deaf, developmentally disabled
I think the thing lost here is the . . .
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developmentally disabled
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:51 am to beauchristopher
quote:From a legal standpoint, if you feel someone is a threat, you must shoot to kill them. So for a cop to get away with murdering people to fulfill their blood lust, they must always say that they are threatened as the reason to why they shoot.
Wish they had non lethal ways to handle this. Is shooting him 5 times necessary when he’s holding a pipe..
Cops have shot teens answering the door, b/c of fearing for their life. Cops have shot an 95+ year old man with a butter knife, because they were fearing for their life. Cops have shot dogs wagging their tail, because (can you guess it?) they feared for their life.
So basically cops are trained to murder people if they are a treat. No using common sense and teamwork to subdue the guy. For a supposedly 1st world country, the USA are lacking in how the police deals with their citizens.
Now this is how cops handle the mentally ill in a real 1st world country. Notice no blood lust by the cops?
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