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re: Nightmare scenario: Cops go to wrong home, homeowner shoots one
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:04 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:04 am to Meauxjeaux
I'm guessing they didn't announce themselves as police officers. Maybe wait and see if anyone responds? Maybe?
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:12 am to Fat and Happy
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"That in and of itself would probably suggest to anyone that it is possible that there could be intruders inside
This is simply a weak attempt at rationalizing. It is an early attempt to lower the settlement.
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So if the officers are called to house for a possible burglary suspect and they find a door unlocked, they should just leave it alone? What happens if there is an actual burglary suspect in the house?
What happens if they actually talk to the neighbor that called 911 before barging into the wrong home?
The article said this is a crime ridden neighborhood. Google earth shows it is not. It looks like old Broadmoor, pre invasion. The yards are well kept and people leave toys and other belongings out in the front yard.
In a high crime area people do not leave things out and unattended because they will walk away.
The police chief's interview made it seem as if he had no knowledge of the situation. He surely already knew what happened if one of his officers had been shot, as well as the resident of a middle class neighborhood and his dog.
It is poor deflection and pre-emptive protectionism.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:13 am to Ole War Skule
So it makes sense a burgular would knock first?
WTF is wrong with this country? A bunch of pussies thinking they are some sort of detectives.
WTF is wrong with this country? A bunch of pussies thinking they are some sort of detectives.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:16 am to Meauxjeaux
Except for the dog, this is great. I only wish it was the homeowner who shot the cop and not friendly fire.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:21 am to LSUTANGERINE
I have searched and cannot find where "friendly fire " is confirmed. Link?
All I am seeing is the guy in charge acting like he has no clue what happened, deflecting, and doing the authoritarian version of the Dindu.
All I am seeing is the guy in charge acting like he has no clue what happened, deflecting, and doing the authoritarian version of the Dindu.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:25 am to Hangit
Well, I do hope it was the homeowner who shot the cop.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:29 am to Meauxjeaux
Incompetent, trigger-happy cops is what we have here it sounds like. Horrible.
That homeowner is going to get a nice settlement out of this.
Why not surround the house, knock on the front door, ask the owner if everything is ok, then go on about your evening? Or, get in touch with the caller, have him point out the house, then proceed?
That homeowner is going to get a nice settlement out of this.
Why not surround the house, knock on the front door, ask the owner if everything is ok, then go on about your evening? Or, get in touch with the caller, have him point out the house, then proceed?
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 7:32 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:36 am to GetCocky11
Simple common sense solution yet cops are low IQ people. They are enforcers....not thinkers.
The guy had no address. All they had to do was to tell the person who reported the suspected break in to stay where they were for a couple of minutes until police arrived to his location. Man could then point and say "that house." But no.....lets just guess and go see what's behind door #3. fricking idiots.
The guy had no address. All they had to do was to tell the person who reported the suspected break in to stay where they were for a couple of minutes until police arrived to his location. Man could then point and say "that house." But no.....lets just guess and go see what's behind door #3. fricking idiots.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:39 am to Hangit
It sounds like they just went to the back door and barged in without announcing they were there or knocking, the dog started barking at them, and then fumbled into a retreat....shooting their way back out.
How could you say you don't know if the homeowner shot? That would take 10 seconds to ask, and 30 seconds to smell weapons
I'm gonna assume I have enough trigger control not to shoot a cop, but if he shot my dog, my fingers all of a sudden might develop Parkinsons.
I mean seriously, all they had to do was knock and then not shoot each other
How could you say you don't know if the homeowner shot? That would take 10 seconds to ask, and 30 seconds to smell weapons
I'm gonna assume I have enough trigger control not to shoot a cop, but if he shot my dog, my fingers all of a sudden might develop Parkinsons.
I mean seriously, all they had to do was knock and then not shoot each other
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:41 am to Meauxjeaux
fix your link. it doens't work, and i'd like to know the actual story instead of reading the knee jerk reactions from the majority of idiots that didn't read teh article but replied with assumptions based on the little bit of info in the OP
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:47 am to Meauxjeaux
Glad it was the cop and not the the homeowner.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:47 am to Hammertime
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I mean seriously, all they had to do was knock and then not shoot each other
Gah! Civilians...
You just don't understand the dangers police face ON A DAILY BASIS! If they had just knocked the homeowner might have had a chance to flush a hand full of marijuana down the toilet, AND THEN WHERE THE frick WOULD WE BE?! See you just don't think about these things, and why should you, it's not like you have to saddle yourself with the stress of strapping on gear like a Delta commando, kicking in doors, and shooting dogs (at possibly the wrong house, who knows, we'll sort it out later)...
Thin blue line bro
did I do it right?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:47 am to LSUTANGERINE
If the homeowner didnt have a gun then who shot the cop?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:51 am to TeddyPadillac
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fix your link. it doens't work, and i'd like to know the actual story instead of reading the knee jerk reactions from the majority of idiots that didn't read teh article but replied with assumptions based on the little bit of info in the OP
LINK
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:01 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Yea, people getting shot is just fantastic!!!
Except for the dog, this is great. I only wish it was the homeowner who shot the cop and not friendly fire
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:04 am to GetCocky11
quote:I 100% agree that this doesn't look good on the cops obviously, and it sounds like they totally botched this one all around.
Why not surround the house, knock on the front door, ask the owner if everything is ok, then go on about your evening? Or, get in touch with the caller, have him point out the house, then proceed?
But, it is possible that they could have done this. And it is also possible that the dude in the house was up to no good and attacked a cop or something before being shot.
Again, I preface it by saying it's probably not that, but I'd prefer to get all the facts before making definitive statements or assumptions.
We do know certain things were 100% botched, like getting the wrong house, so it is fair to speculate that other things were probably botched as well, I'll give you that.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 8:05 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:05 am to GetCocky11
Is the protocol that the cops go in silent or clearly announce their presence (siren, bullhorn, etc...) when they arrive at the house in this sort of scenario? It just seems like entering a house that may be inhabited unannounced with guns drawn on a vague tip is asking for trouble.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 8:08 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:09 am to shel311
quote:Fat chance of that being the case. If it was, the cops would've 100% come out and said it in their statement
And it is also possible that the dude in the house was up to no good and attacked a cop or something before being shot.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:13 am to Hammertime
quote:Touche
Fat chance of that being the case. If it was, the cops would've 100% come out and said it in their statement
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:31 am to STEVED00
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It just seems like entering a house that may be inhabited unannounced with guns drawn on a vague tip is asking for trouble.
The Chief (Not Chavis) said they definitely announced themselves as LEOs, loud and often. He did not appear to know any other detail about anything beyond his name, rank and serial number.
I feel sorry for the LEOs in his dept. He does not care enough when one of his officers is shot in the thigh to even ask what happened.
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