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re: Nice try, NASA
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:57 pm to Gaggle
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:57 pm to Gaggle
quote:You are free to reproduce the Cavendish experiment on your own. Thousands of high school kids have done it. You can measure the acceleration. You can try different materials to be sure that mass and mass alone causes the acceleration. You can try with different shapes and positioning to be sure that the acceleration is toward the center of mass. And finally you can try different masses to be sure that more mass causes more acceleration, and then you can predict the acceleration that a given mass will cause.
Prove gravity. We know that things fall. But prove that a spinning mass attracts objects to stick to it due to its mass. And another even larger mass will hold it in orbit. I want to see that.
Then you can apply what you've learned to deduce that in the FE model everything would accelerate toward the center of mass, so the further we are from the north pole the more gravity should try to knock us over. Given that things weigh pretty much the same everywhere on earth (near the surface), and that people don't have any trouble staying upright in the southern hemisphere, the only conclusion to be drawn is that the earth is a sphere.
You probably need to pass 9th grade Geometry first, though.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:58 pm to drizztiger
There's nothing to cite. They don't do tests and studies to prove mass causes gravity. If they did they would fail. That's why it's the theory of gravity. Mass does not ever and has not ever created a force of attraction.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:03 pm to Korkstand
quote:Yes its a smoke and mirrors show to indoctrinate kids. Under real lab conditions it fails
You are free to reproduce the Cavendish experiment on your own. Thousands of high school kids have done it.
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Wildly Erratic
The article explains that the results are wildly erratic.
“ Through these dual experiments, Quinn’s team arrived at a value of 6.67545 X 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2. That’s 241 parts per million above the standard value of 6.67384(80) X 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2, which was arrived at by a special task force of the International Council for Science’s Committee on Data for Science and Technology (CODATA) (pdf) in 2010 by calculating a weighted average of all the various experimental values.These values differ from one another by as much as 450 ppm of the constant, even though most of them have estimated uncertainties of only about 40 ppm. “Clearly, many of them or most of them are subject either to serious significant errors or grossly underestimated uncertainties,” Quinn says ”
The values of these sophisticated laboratory experiments differ from one another by as much as 450 ppm of the gravitational constant. The uncertainty for measuring the gravity of the opposite mass with the equipment should be only about 40 ppm, yet the values observed are far more erratic—over ten times their estimated uncertainties.
Cannot Be Measured
“ “Either something is wrong with the experiments, or there is a flaw in our understanding of gravity,” says Mark Kasevich, a Stanford University physicist who conducted an unrelated measurement of big G in 2007 using atom interferometry. “Further work is required to clarify the situation.”
If the true value of big G turns out to be closer to the Quinn team’s measurement than the CODATA value, then calculations that depend on G will have to be revised. For example, the estimated masses of the solar system’s planets, including Earth, would change slightly. Such a revision, however, wouldn’t alter any fundamental laws of physics, and would have very little practical effect on anyone’s life, Quinn says. But getting to the bottom of the issue is more a matter of principle to the scientists. “It’s not a thing one likes to leave unresolved,” he adds. “We should be able to measure gravity.” ”
The end sentence is plain in its understanding, admitting that they cannot measure gravity.
But you won't read about the Stanford phsyicist's experiments. You won't care that yet another round earth theory got blasted away. You won't question why they are teaching this. You'll think of something else and call me stupid.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:05 pm to Gaggle
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Gaggle
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:11 pm to Gaggle
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You'll think of something else and call me stupid.
Well, my mom did teach me to tell the truth.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:13 pm to TigerstuckinMS
You might as well call me purple. I can't possibly take it seriously.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:14 pm to Gaggle
I am impressed you've kept the charade up this long.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:18 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Actually, he seems kind of smart. So he must be trolling.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:21 pm to Gaggle
Let me guess:
You found one experiment that produced results that you think confirm your biases, but haven't checked why the results are different from consensus and you completely dismiss overwhelming evidence to the contrary as conspiracy.
Did I read the playbook right?
You found one experiment that produced results that you think confirm your biases, but haven't checked why the results are different from consensus and you completely dismiss overwhelming evidence to the contrary as conspiracy.
Did I read the playbook right?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:24 pm to Hulkklogan
You literally didn't read the quote "right". It's about many series of experiments and the consistent problem
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:29 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:This is him on point.
Let me guess:
You found one experiment that produced results that you think confirm your biases, but haven't checked why the results are different from consensus and you completely dismiss overwhelming evidence to the contrary as conspiracy.
Did I read the playbook right?
I know a few like Gaggle and they're not unintelligent per se. They just get so down their rabbit role that they can't escape. It doesn't matter now, they're done.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:30 pm to Gaggle
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Yes its a smoke and mirrors show to indoctrinate kids. Under real lab conditions it fails
Reproduce the failure. I look forward to your video.
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The end sentence is plain in its understanding, admitting that they cannot measure gravity.
That whole thing you quoted about "wildly erratic" calculated values amounts to +/- 0.023%. While that is a good bit of uncertainty, it really goes to show how fricking accurately the value of G has been calculated.
A small fraction of one percent of error to you means "it cannot be calculated". And you still don't understand that literally any fricking value means flat earth doesn't work.
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You won't care that yet another round earth theory got blasted away.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:35 pm to Korkstand
quote:An order of magnitude more uncertainty than there should be. An incredible amount.
While that is a good bit of uncertainty,
quote:it means it to the Stanford physicist and Quinn
A small fraction of one percent of error to you means "it cannot be calculated".
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:47 pm to Gaggle
quote:It could be 4 orders of magnitude more uncertainty and it would still prove flat earth incorrect.
An order of magnitude more uncertainty than there should be. An incredible amount.
But you still don't even understand what you're talking about here. You think you are disproving gravity, but you even quoted where all it means is that the estimated mass of planets would have to be changed slightly. You know what planets are, right? Those spherical things orbiting the sun just like earth? Those things that we can predict their position in the sky with extreme precision thanks to our understanding of gravity?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:49 pm to Korkstand
quote:You just keep making me believe it more. Such ridiculous non sequiturs. I mean read your sentence again. Really?
It could be 4 orders of magnitude more uncertainty and it would still prove flat earth incorrect.
quote:I love how crazy this makes you. But that's not why I do it. It is the truth.
But you still don't even understand what you're talking about here. You think you are disproving gravity, but you even quoted where all it means is that the estimated mass of planets would have to be changed slightly. You know what planets are, right? Those spherical things orbiting the sun just like earth? Those things that we can predict their position in the sky with extreme precision thanks to our understanding of gravity?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:51 pm to Gaggle
quote:Yes, really. Do you really not understand the implications of gravity to the FE model?
You just keep making me believe it more. Such ridiculous non sequiturs. I mean read your sentence again. Really?
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I love how crazy this makes you.
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But that's not why I do it. It is the truth.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:58 pm to Korkstand
You would've been an inquisitor. You could've never been Galileo.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:02 pm to Gaggle
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You would've been an inquisitor. You could've never been Galileo.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:05 pm to Gaggle
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You would've been an inquisitor. You could've never been Galileo.
you should win an award for troll of the year
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:13 pm to Ross
quote:I think he really believes his idiocy. If not, troll of the year for sure.
you should win an award for troll of the year
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