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re: Next week's manned spaceflight from Cape Kennedy will be historic...
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:37 pm to LSUgusto
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:37 pm to LSUgusto
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A daytime landing and runway celebration
I thought they did. Or am I thinking about the landing of the plane carrying it back from CA? They also had ceremonies when they broke the fleet up around the country. I still think it is complete BS that 2 stayed on the east coast while the north/Chicago didn't get one.
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:42 pm to Jake88
I’ve only known the space shuttle, not old enough for the other systems so I always thought of the space shuttle with it’s solid boosters as “rockets”. Apparently this is technically incorrect and that was the reason behind the question.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:48 pm to MSUDawg98
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A daytime landing and runway celebrationquote:
I thought they did.
Nope. Landed just before dawn in Florida. I woke up at like 3 am to watch the deorbit burn and follow it down.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:52 pm to RollTide1987
My dad was a NASA contractor before there was NASA - I grew up in Brevard County (PAFB) in the mid-50s watching early launches. My dad wrote the flight control software for the Saturn-V Apollo launches.
My dad has an award for supporting the Apollo launches, including the moon missions.
I have a plaque for supporting the first Shuttle launch and I supported the last Shuttle launch.
Both of my sons have been NASA contractors.
I now live in a Cape Canaveral condo and have a view from my north balcony of every launch pad and will watch next week's launch with great admiration for everyone who historically and currently played a role in getting us to this milestone, albeit on SpaceX boosters.
POTUS DJT and VP Pence will attend - Elon will attend - as will several hundred thousand patriots - GODSPEED Crew Dragon Flight DM-2.
My dad has an award for supporting the Apollo launches, including the moon missions.
I have a plaque for supporting the first Shuttle launch and I supported the last Shuttle launch.
Both of my sons have been NASA contractors.
I now live in a Cape Canaveral condo and have a view from my north balcony of every launch pad and will watch next week's launch with great admiration for everyone who historically and currently played a role in getting us to this milestone, albeit on SpaceX boosters.
POTUS DJT and VP Pence will attend - Elon will attend - as will several hundred thousand patriots - GODSPEED Crew Dragon Flight DM-2.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:01 pm to roadkill
Glad to see so many threads on this launch lately. Hopefully this can get Americans excited about space again. So many big things happening right now with commercial crew program, Artimas, Starship, SLS, Blue origin’s New Glen and Blue Moon and it seems like no one is paying attention. Can’t imagine what it was like during the space race.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Nope. Landed just before dawn in Florida. I woke up at like 3 am to watch the deorbit burn and follow it down.
Speaking of...nothing beat being able to watch it from Sanford at night. I remember watching Columbia take off from the window in our conference room in Lake Mary... and then waking up just for the twin booms that shook everything just enough. Longest 15 minutes ever when those booms didn't come and (as we know now) they locked down MC...then 45 minutes later WFLD had the footage from Texas. I went over to Cocoa Beach for the first flight back after it and was underwhelmed by the launch itself. The beach being packed reminded me of those old shots of the crowds in the Mercury days.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:28 pm to Jake88
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Jake88
Any affiliation to Jake88 on Instagram?
Posted on 5/21/20 at 1:31 am to MSUDawg98
I’m pretty excited to see it. My Dad was one of the Engineers who designed the Saturn V back in the day. We went to a couple of Gemini Launchings as well Apollo VIII
Posted on 5/21/20 at 6:09 am to MSUDawg98
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Shuttle was useless
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In fairness, the ISS is pretty useless too.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 6:11 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Am planning to road trip down to get close to the launch. Space Center is closed but lots of parks to view from.
I live an hour from there.
We'll be down there.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 6:29 am to TigerGman
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Actually Bush
I remember Obama ending some sort of space exploration.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:03 am to MSUDawg98
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I still think it is complete BS that 2 stayed on the east coast while the north/Chicago didn't get one.
Each site makes sense though:
National Air & Space Museum (Discovery): Smithsonian was always going to get one
Kennedy Space Center (Atlantis): Shuttles were based here
California Science Center (Endeavour): On West Coast and close to where the shuttles were built (Rockwell plant in Palmdale)
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Didn’t Obama once say he wanted to use the space program as some kind of Muslim outreach thing ?
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:49 am to RollTide1987
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In fairness, the ISS is pretty useless too.
I would love to hear the opinions of those who downvoted this. What practical use does the ISS serve? It would be better served in lunar orbit where astronauts could travel to and from the lunar surface, giving them the ability to quickly analyze any samples taken from the moon.
We wasted 40 years and 14 lives on the shuttle program when we could have been prepping for long term habitual living on the surface of the moon as well as prepping for a manned mission to Mars.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:39 am to RollTide1987
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I would love to hear the opinions of those who downvoted this. What practical use does the ISS serve?
I have no idea what benefits a permanently manned space station would bring us... perhaps it's we can study affects on the human body for prolonged periods of 0 g. All those science experiments done in spacelab, in the shuttle bay, a year's worth can be done on a permanently manned space station in a month or so. Seems convenient.
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It would be better served in lunar orbit where astronauts could travel to and from the lunar surface, giving them the ability to quickly analyze any samples taken from the moon.
Probably the biggest reason it's in low earth orbit and not lunar orbit... it's a little easier to do a rescue 80 miles up than over 200k miles away
I am also quite sure we did all the lunar surface testing we needed 50 years ago. They brought back hundreds of pounds of material. My grandpa kinda had a minor role in developing the space station, freedom version not the bastardized iss. Here's a quick look at what he was doing before 1987... director of space station operations, for a company with a 10-11 figure contract for a space station. Considering he was also chief engineer of the only rocket stage to carry people into lunar orbit, his work gets a little more weight than your opinion.
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:11 pm to MoarKilometers
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100% certain the Saturn IB could do this. It took our last space station up.
Skylab was launched on a modified Saturn V. It weighed 170,000 lbs, too much for a IB. The IB could only put about 40,000 lbs in LEO. You're thinking of the crewed missions to Skylab, which did use the IB.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:05 am to RollTide1987
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We wasted 40 years and 14 lives on the shuttle program when we could have been prepping for long term habitual living on the surface of the moon as well as prepping for a manned mission to Mars.
Shuttle was designed to be a part of long-term exploration until the budget hacks got to NASA.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:13 am to MoarKilometers
The shuttle never did what it was supposed to. Make satellite insertion affordable.
The reusable booster rockets are to me the biggest step forward in that regard.
The reusable booster rockets are to me the biggest step forward in that regard.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:16 am to RollTide1987
quote:Feels like it's been much longer than 9 years.
Not only will it be the first time astronauts have lifted off into space from American soil since 2011
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:17 am to Wally Sparks
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Shuttle was designed to be a part of long-term exploration until the budget hacks got to NASA.
The Shuttle orbiters were basically worn out out when we stopped flying them, to continue using them even if the budget was available would have been asking for another disaster. They also never met the original design goals, it was much more expensive to operate,and turn around time between missions was far longer than originally anticipated.
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