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re: New Orleans Murder Rate Up 70%

Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:36 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21175 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:36 am to
The decline started with Moon, but Mitch is keeping the legacy going strong, with or without the statues.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124917 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:41 am to
Is the DA's office still staffed by Northeastern carpet bagging young folk?
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:43 am to
For the most part that's true, but you absolutely can arrest and prosecute your way to a substantial reduction in homicides. The multi-agency gang task force was solely responsible for the reductions in 12-14 by targeting the relatively small number who were committing several homicides each.

Then the effect of Mitch's (and make no mistake, he is solely responsible) NOPD hiring freeze kicked in, and there's no one left. This email is the most telling thing ever, and has been Landrieu and Kopplin's strategy all along: We have more X per capita than the rest of the country, so we'll just reduce X, not address the underlying reasons for X or consider whether we need X to remain where it is.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151554 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:43 am to
I know the public defenders office is for the most part
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21661 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:43 am to
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I'd be willing to bet new orleans pours more money and resources into it's police and judicial system than a city like London.


I'd be willing to bet that you're wrong...if for no other reason, London's economy and political leadership is far above that of New Orleans.

quote:

It's not because of money and resources, it's because the citizens of London are civilized.



Someone's never attended British soccer matches.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12801 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:45 am to
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I'm not a fan of Mitch, but to his defense what do you expect him to do to lower the murder rate? Doing so needs a complete mindset and culture change of the people and that's really out of his control. Until the people start valuing life and parents start actually "parenting" instead of letting their kids run wild, there's not a damn thing Mitch or any other mayor will be able to do to fix the problem.


the police freeze contributed to a police shortage, a police shortage contributes to a lack of worry about being caught....

theres a lot of layers to it. hes part of the discussion.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:45 am to
Good post. It blew my mind once when an officer told me that imaginary lines dictated if they could respond to a call or not. This was about three years ago when I was involved in a hit and run with a cultured Central City youth.

If his district ended Carrollton/Canal (example) then he couldn't respond to a call at Canal and Broad. Figured it was all guns on deck in Nola.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:45 am to
DA never had those types, the public defender does.

But the DA is staffed by all young people. You're just not gonna keep people there with $46,600. The major offense trials division hits the 80's, but there's only so long you're going to keep people at that. 5-6 years are the veterans there.

In my opinion, he should let them do outside civil work as long as it doesn't interfere with their jobs. Everywhere else does.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91605 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:49 am to
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Spot on. Conservatives are all "small government" until a Democrat is in office, then they expect him to solve every problem.


The domecrats want to tax small business even more. That drives out good honest working people and you are left with the majority of your population as degenerate lazy fricks. That's exactly what happens. People of this state are going to get fed up and leave.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8335 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:51 am to
Shits bouta change nephew, get dem statues down playa
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91605 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:51 am to
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Someone's never attended British soccer matches.


I have. London is cleaner and I felt way safer in that City than I do going to work in BR or Nola.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22333 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:53 am to
In case no one read the link to the story on N.O. homicides, what is more telling than the murder rate increasing by 70% is that the closure percentage, cases solved, is 22%. Do the math. Landrieu is the captain of the ship & it's his priorities that are being emphasized through out the city. Obviously reducing the rate of citizens being killed & increasing the successful prosecution of the killers is not at the top of his list.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:55 am to
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What's sad, is that a lot of those idiots brag about shite like that. How fricking sad can one culture be when it brags about being number 1 in murder rate?



Piss and bums, but somehow we just flipped a reno house in Algiers Point for 220 a sq ft
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12801 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:57 am to
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Obviously reducing the rate of citizens being killed & increasing the successful prosecution of the killers is not at the top of his list.


i think somewhere in there they figured going after guns and gangs would impact the homicide rate too.... but despite TIGER and some other major units looking like they are having success... well... fatal shootings are still up even if things like armed robbery are down

it just doesnt seem like theres a cohesive strategy or any synergy between districts and various segments of the chain that makes up justice (police to DA to jail to..)
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:58 am to
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Is the DA's office still staffed by Northeastern carpet bagging young folk?




Yeah, its weird
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:02 am to
The problem with even the Murder Rate is that it is not truly an accurate number. They only count it as a murder if the person is dead on the ground or they die within 1 day of being transported to a hospital. After 1 day in the hospital the NOPD declares the death as a medical death or whatever the fancy term it is that they use. The OP Sheriff's office does the same thing--you have an inmate who has been stabbed 50 times--transport him over as quick as possible to the LSUMC and let him die there so it isn't reported as a murder in the jail.

The only time the NOPD accurately reports a death where someone died in a hospital days later is when the family starts raising a stink that the death was due to being shot not a hospital malpractice issue. Only 16 of the 175 victims were transported to a hospital. Sorry but that % doesn't jive at all.

Find someone shot in the back of the head on the side of the road or burned up in a car so you classify the death as a suicide or undetermined death.

The truth of the matter is that the NOLA homocide rate is probably 2x what the reported statistics show.

NOLA's New Orleans Murder Map 2016 (still not accurate)

We had another murder this morning in New Orleans East btw so the number rises.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8335 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:03 am to
#1 in the country sons!!!!!! Can't see Nola when it comes to this murda game son
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124917 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:04 am to
both offices pretty much pay LSU lip service, even thought they're far more likely to get long term workers here than outside places.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:05 am to
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I know the public defenders office is for the most part


We should actually be thanking them for spending time in that underfunded and undermanned office. We should actually require 2nd and 3rd year law students to assist the PD offices across the state in order to get the backlog fixed.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39564 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:07 am to
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just lol at living in New Orleans

I know right?
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or anywhere in Louisiana

1 out of 2 ain't bad but kinda average.
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