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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:11 am to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:11 am to



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man...this has been one of the more frustrating threads I've participated in


I'm two pages in and it sounds like people really cannot respect OTHER PEOPLE'S CHOICES...the world revolves around them and what they want and what they like

They can't just not go to a bar that allows smoking, no they WANT TO PREVENT YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO DO SO...libs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476794 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Already explained.

you haven't explained how restricting smoking inside of private property is NOT restricting the use of private property
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:12 am to
i see

well gay marriage is becoming unbanned
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:12 am to
If I'm an idiot explain how my example with a microwave is any different than this.

It's something legal being banned in a place of private ownership.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:13 am to
Yes I did. Not repeating myself for you three times anymore. I made my point. Deal with it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:13 am to
quote:

If I'm an idiot explain how my example with a microwave is any different than this. It's something legal being banned in a place of private ownership.
You called me an idiot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476794 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:14 am to
quote:

I'm two pages in and it sounds like people really cannot respect OTHER PEOPLE'S CHOICES.

that's what it comes down to

people are showing that they have no problem using supporting, if not using)government to ban something they don't like

and they will even try to lie and create a "public good" as a justification (in this instance, health) to avoid admitting the truth

that's what this thread boils down to. selfish people whose beliefs aren't winning the war of ideas, so they use government as a cheat code
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:14 am to
Look people. It's simple. I want the government to ban things I don't like. But dammit, stay out of the vices that I enjoy. Is that so hard to understand?
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:15 am to
Good job doing anything other than being a mindless troll.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:15 am to
You know the city council claimed that there was no "Constitutional right" to smoke.

I say there is no Constitutional right to ban a legal activity in a private establishment.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 9:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476794 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

I want the government to ban things I don't like. But dammit, stay out of the vices that I enjoy. Is that so hard to understand?

it's not

but it's fun to watch them lie about it all and justify in other ways
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34542 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:16 am to
Why all the smokers so butthurt?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:16 am to
I don't smoke regularly, but I enjoy smoking sometimes

So I'm def not on the, I WANT TO BAN THINGS I DON'T LIKE train.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476794 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:16 am to
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Why all the smokers so butthurt?

i don't think there are any smokers discussing the ban right now

*ETA: at least arguing against the ban
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 9:17 am
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20633 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:16 am to
I would have rather the city mandate that bars need X number of those smoke ventilators per Y amount of sq. footage and stated the reasoning as employee health and safety. The outright ban is nuts.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:18 am to
Look man, the government is the responsible party to protect it's citizens from unhealthy activities. I want a healthier America, don't you?

Just keep your got damn hands off of my favorite vices. It's not their business to tell me what is healthy or not for me.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Good job doing anything other than being a mindless troll.
quote:

Maybe I'll be a pussy like you
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You are a retard...
quote:

you idiot
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I say there is no Constitutional right to ban a legal activity in a private establishment.
Never in the history of this country has that been even close to correct.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476794 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Look man, the government is the responsible party to protect it's citizens from unhealthy activities. I want a healthier America, don't you?

yeah, which is why i think bars should be restricted to selling patrons 2 drinks (of comparable alcohol content to 1 beer or shot) and patrons should be properly marked so that they are prohibited from ordering more at other bars. 2 per night is the proper limit for a healthy society

think of the children
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:20 am to
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Why all the smokers so butthurt?

Because America is shitting on business owners is my guess.
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