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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
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It is the reason we now have safe food in restaurants, safer working conditions for employees and now cleaner air.

the first 2 are due to the market



look at all of that anti-progress before OSHA!

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
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hey there mr straw man


Should have been a Bob Dylan song.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Non-smokers shouldn't be at the mercy of smokers.


its not about smokers

business owners shouldn't be at the mercy of non smokers
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40863 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Non-smokers shouldn't be at the mercy of smokers.


When did this happen?
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7702 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:59 pm to
bullshite, should be the owner's choice. Nobody is forced to go to a fricking bar.

Home of the free.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:01 pm to
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Non-smokers shouldn't be at the mercy of smokers.

they're not. they are at the mercy of the owner of the business. non-smokers can go to many non-smoking bars to avoid the issue

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I should be able to go into any bar i want and not worry about inhaling smoke.

why?

i believe i should be able to go into any bar i want and not worry about people who are drunk

i shouldn't be at the mercy of excess drinkers to enjoy my time at a bar

quote:

Did you throw a fit when they banned smoking in restaurants?

i was not pleased
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:02 pm to
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i presume you believe in government bans on gay marriage, possessing weed, having an open container of alcohol outside, etc?




Im not political at all. But i never understood how one viewpoint can be all encompassing.

Because 2nd hand smoke affects people's health, means i should be against gay marriage and open containers? Huh? Seriously, this is what is wrong with politics in America

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60684 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:03 pm to
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Non-smokers shouldn't be at the mercy of smokers. That's the point. I should be able to go into any bar i want and not worry about inhaling smoke.

You can't be serious

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Did you throw a fit when they banned smoking in restaurants?

That's equally wrong
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:04 pm to
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Non-smokers shouldn't be at the mercy of smokers.


When did this happen?


When the govt. forced these people into smoke filled bars under penalty of law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:04 pm to
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Because 2nd hand smoke affects people's health, means i should be against gay marriage and open containers? Huh? Seriously,

gay marriage is banned due to certain people deciding their morality should be enforced as a law

open containers being illegal is the same thing

so is this law about banning property owners from deciding what to do with their property

it's using government as a cheat code to win the war of ideas in a market. it's all the same shite
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Because 2nd hand smoke affects people's health


you got a study that shows 2nd hand smoke effects from sitting in a bar?
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
I just wish smoking wasn't allowed in the BR Bulldog. How long until that happens?
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
No one forces you to be around second hand smoke though. You could easily walk away if it bothers you. The smoker has the same right to be someplace as you do.

This ban isn't about the smokers though. It's about government telling a private owner what they can or cannot do.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
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When did this happen?



when all my friends want to go to the only bar in a neighborhood that happens to be pro smoking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
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How long until that happens?

talk to the owners of the BR bulldog
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78424 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:07 pm to
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when all my friends want to go to the only bar in a neighborhood that happens to be pro smoking.



Why would you want to go to a bar that is actively trying to kill you?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:07 pm to
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This ban isn't about the smokers though. It's about government telling a private owner what they can or cannot do.


they refuse to understand this

they will not look past their own selfish desires
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:07 pm to
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The smoker has the same right to be someplace as you do.



yea, as long as they aren't smoking
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:07 pm to
ok lnchbox
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:08 pm to
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Why would you want to go to a bar that is actively trying to kill you?




Exactly. I shouldn't have to worry about that.
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