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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:08 pm to
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they refuse to understand this

they will not look past their own selfish desires




Have you ever owned a business? Do you think this is the only thing the government dictates?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
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when all my friends want to go to the only bar in a neighborhood that happens to be pro smoking.

that's the owner's decision, not the smokers

and why should you have the power to tell that owner and those patrons what to do? it's not your bar and you obviously don't want to go there (if it's full of smokers)
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78424 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Do you think this is the only thing the government dictates?


So more laws are the answer. Nice.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Do you think this is the only thing the government dictates?


this argument again?

so because the government makes bullshite regulations, we should be ok with more bullshite regulations?

the frick kind of argument is that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Have you ever owned a business? Do you think this is the only thing the government dictates?

i don't think many people arguing against the ban are a big fan of those, either
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
Do you believe smoking should be allowed in planes, hotels, restaurants, etc. ?
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

quote:

Have you ever owned a business? Do you think this is the only thing the government dictates?


And why is this ok just because they have dictated other things in the past? Where does it end?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:10 pm to
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Do you believe smoking should be allowed in planes, hotels, restaurants, etc. ?


yeah sure
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

so because the government makes bullshite regulations, we should be ok with more bullshite regulations?




so are there any good regulations?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
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Do you believe smoking should be allowed in planes, hotels, restaurants, etc. ?

i believe the owners of the planes, hotels, restaurants, etc should have the right to choose if it is allowed

let the market sort it out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:


Do you believe smoking should be allowed in planes, hotels, restaurants, etc. ?


If the owners decide, yes.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78424 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Exactly. I shouldn't have to worry about that.



See, I guess I view it different.

I don't want to be surrounded by shitty service and coke dealers so I don't go to Tracey's. Little did I know I should petition the Council to make laws that dictate proper service.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

so are there any good regulations?


yeah of course
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:12 pm to
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so are there any good regulations?

i think a better question is asking you if we're done...or what else do we have to regulate until you think it's over
Posted by Randazzo
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2004
12380 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:13 pm to
A proprietor's choice to be smoking or non smoking is much better than a blanket ordinance passed by the City Council. Leave it to the consumer to decide where they want to take their business. If you didn't want to be in a smokey bar, there were already quite a few non-smoking bars in the area. There are more important issues that the City Council should be focusing on...like violent crime in the French Quarter, low officer numbers and corruption in the NOPD, un-drivable streets...I could go on.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138532 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:15 pm to
No smoking at Mardi Gras parades. Too much close confinement and secondhand smoke.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

And why is this ok just because they have dictated other things in the past? Where does it end?




Laws have been in place since the beginning of time. "Where does it end" is such a stupid fricking question.


Id like to open up a strip club w/ video poker across the street from the school your 10yr old goes too, but im rational enough to realize why I cant.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86207 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:17 pm to
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im rational enough to realize why I cant.


but you are't rational enough to choose to not go to a smoking bar if you don't like smoking?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:17 pm to
You seem like one of those self centered types who thinks that you have a right to not be offended without realizing that it necessarily means that everyone should have less rights than you if they disagree with you on anything.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:18 pm to
Where does it end is actually a pretty legit question.
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