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re: New Infrastructure Spending Plan likely means a NOLA -Baton Rouge passenger rail link

Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:16 am to
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:16 am to
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Yeah, you’re right. That’s money well spent for the 20 people who may actually do that.



They think there is actually some interest in this from real potential riders. IMO it depends on how they execute. They need to double up on as much track as they can to prevent freight interference and maximize speed. The suburban stations need generous parking lots and covered platforms if possible.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:21 am to
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Will fail as too many people love their cars in South Louisiana. The only time this will be used is for LSU or Saints game when people do not want to pay or deal with the parking.


this will also be used for riding to the airport and for day trips like jazz fest or weddings or work or conferences

some of you are so painfully dumb
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
9169 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:20 am to
I would rather see I-10 be four lanes each way between Baton Rouge and Nola, but whateverz
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78370 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:27 am to
You'd need about 3-4x the money.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42268 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:31 am to
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Operating expenses per year (not in first cost) $8,890,000,00. Estimated revenues 210,00 (their figure) times ten dollars or $2,100,000 and a $6,789,000 per year deficit. Expenses include $1,600,000 for leading locomotives and equipment from Amtrak, $1,360,000 for administration, 170,000 for police and security and 150,000 for insurance.


Wow
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
617 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:36 am to
If this happens, for me it would be a 30 minute commute to the train station. 30 minutes to park, walk in, get through security, and allow a time buffer waiting for the train -> 45 min ride to BR if it's high speed with no stops -> get to BR train station, de-train, and get an Uber to final destination is about another 30 minutes. That's roughly 2 hours. Driving from my metro NOLA house to BR destination is about an hour and with the added benefit of not having to put up with a bunch of people. Sure, a train seems like a wonderful waste of money.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38040 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:41 am to
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this will also be used for riding to the airport and for day trips like jazz fest or weddings or work or conferences

some of you are so painfully dumb


Well these are a weekly/daily occurrence for so
many people between the two cities it all seems perfectly rational now. Thanks Mr. Wizard.

ETA: and one thing we’ve learned in the last year, is that NOLAs leaders are pro festivals and large gatherings. They’d never do anything to threaten their social gatherings, right Teedy?
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 11:45 am
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66982 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:47 am to
Will trade one railroad for a loop
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
617 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:56 am to
"Will trade one railroad for a loop"

A loop would make too much sense. Besides, it's counter to the Dems plans to de-car society, shove us all into multi-family housing in overcrowded cities and onto public transportation.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38040 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:57 am to
Ding ding ding
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Will trade one railroad for a loop


This wouldn’t cover the cost of a tiny fraction of the loop, and the feds are earmarking this cash specifically for railroads.

We need the new bridge. Once we can secure funding for it, we can build the route for the loop around it. The damn bridge is the hardest part. The state is getting a lot of cash for highways, so I am hoping they can at least get started on the bridge. If not, then hopefully the approaches.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78370 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:08 pm to
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30 minutes to park, walk in, get through security




Public perception is going to be a much harder hurdle to overcome than I thought.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:10 pm to
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Public perception is going to be a much harder hurdle to overcome than I thought.



This is Tigerdroppings. The general public is more open minded.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78370 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:16 pm to
I still can't get over people complaining about the extra time when the commute from NOLA to BR being a deal breaker. I'd take 90 minutes of free time over 75 minutes of dealing with left lane assholes and gambling on the spillway any day.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:22 pm to
most of these baws will ride it to new orleans, only to spend the entire night drinking hand grenades on bourbon, just so they can ride it back home and shite post on tigerdroppings about how awful the city is
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:27 pm to
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If this happens, for me it would be a 30 minute commute to the train station. 30 minutes to park, walk in, get through security, and allow a time buffer waiting for the train



A lot of incorrect assumptions here. You aren't taking a plane. There's no security. Outside of New Orleans and Baton Rouge, there probably won't even be manned stations...just covered platforms and parking.

The train would sit for 60-90 seconds per intermediate stop unless there's someone in a wheelchair that needs help boarding or if it got ahead of schedule. Conductors check/sell tickets for people that just boarded while the train moves on to the next stop. Frequently on commuter routes, they don't even check for tickets until right before the final stop on the line.

No buffer time needed. Show up, park, and get to the platform before the train leaves.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
617 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:29 pm to
"I still can't get over people complaining about the extra time when the commute from NOLA to BR being a deal breaker. I'd take 90 minutes of free time over 75 minutes of dealing with left lane a-holes and gambling on the spillway any day."

It will much more than a 15 minute for most. Maybe you'll be lucky and live near a train stop and work near another one. Most people will have to park-and-ride to the train and uber or bus it to their destination. For me it takes over 20 minutes just to drive from home to the downtown NOLA train station with light traffic.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:32 pm to
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It will much more than a 15 minute for most.


It also takes more than 15 minutes just to get to I-10 for most in those parishes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299276 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:35 pm to
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The general public is more open minded.


And probably less informed on economics.

This will be a money pit.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:38 pm to
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This will be a money pit.


QQ. When will I-10 finally produce revenue and pay for itself? It always seems to require maintenance, which costs the taxpayers a lot.
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