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Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:43 pm to UpToPar
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In the short term, sure.
But those that truly believe in a free market believe that the market will eventually correct itself through technological innovation and competition.
Belief certainly is how one would have to define that, because reality shows us that not every market ends up perfectly competitive and very often things are messy and you get market failures routinely.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:43 pm to CptBengal
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you're arguing for a side that is known to lie, steal, and censor.
The side that has CNN? And Comcast?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:44 pm to UpToPar
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But those that truly believe in a free market believe that the market will eventually correct itself through technological innovation and competition.
ISPs aren't a free market. And if they were to implement a fast lane for a fee, it would stifle innovation.
They're already spending millions lobbying to prevent municipalities from creating their own fiber network, because they don't want the competition.
If it were a true free market, you'd be right. But it's a government sanctioned monopoly.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:44 pm to TH03
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The side that has CNN? And Comcast?
that would be FB, Google, twitter, etc.
you do realize that, right?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:45 pm to CCTider
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But it's a government sanctioned monopoly.
so the answer is t ogive the government more power?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:47 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Ok, but that literally has nothing to do with net neutrality.
It does. Again, I don't subscribe to this position, but some believe that NN has stifled technological innovation.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:48 pm to CptBengal
Wait Facebook, et al can censor the whole internet?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:49 pm to CptBengal
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so the answer is t ogive the government more power?
If it means reigning in companies that have already been proven they'll screw Americans at every step to increase profit, they needed to be regulated properly.
If they hadn't already down their greed, and what they're willing to do, then we wouldn't have placed them under title 2. They did it to themselves, then bribed their way it of it.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:50 pm to UpToPar
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It does. Again, I don't subscribe to this position, but some believe that NN has stifled technological innovation
It does not.
The only argument on that front that has been offered is that the loss of potential profit would of been put back into building out networks.
But that falls apart on two fronts, one, investment has remained largely unchanged since net neutrality, and two it ignore that it is already heavily subsidized and other measures, measures Ajit very much favors NOT overriding like bans on municipal broadband, actually hold back innovation and avenues of competition.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:50 pm to TH03
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Wait Facebook, et al can censor the whole internet?
No.
ISPs can't either. They can only censor an access point.
Come on imbecile...try again
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:50 pm to CptBengal
It certainly isn't to give the monopoly more power.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:50 pm to CptBengal
You don't understand the difference between an internet service provider and a content provider do you?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:51 pm to CCTider
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If it means reigning in companies that have already been proven they'll screw Americans at every step to increase profit, they needed to be regulated properly.
They got that way from the regulation.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:52 pm to CptBengal
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They got that way from the regulation
They were good boys. Never did nobody no harm. It was that damned regulation that made them evil and greedy.
Do you really believe that shite?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:53 pm to CptBengal
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so the answer is t ogive the government more power?
Not necessarily. If the ISP lobby backed off and truly opened up competition that would be fine.
It will also never happen, which leads us back to govt power...
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:53 pm to CptBengal
If they can censor the access point then they can de facto censor the internet. Clearly. Like obviously. Like I know you already know this and are just being an a-hole. But that's your MO.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:53 pm to Peazey
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It certainly isn't to give the monopoly more power.
More power?
Keeping them at title 2 makes them a permanent monopoly.
Wtf
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:54 pm to CptBengal
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They got that way from the regulation.
What regulations caused Comcast to slow down Netflix?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:54 pm to Peazey
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If they can censor the access point then they can de facto censor the internet. Clearly. Like obviously. Like I know you already know this and are just being an a-hole. But that's your MO.
Only if they're the only access point.
They're not.
Or we can get into fiduciary duties of publicly traded companies if you'd like to...
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