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Nearly a Million Americans Fear Losing Their Home to Foreclosure in the next two months
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:44 am
This is what happens when you lose equity due to rising rates and inflation sadly. So many of you saying this wouldn't happen because people had equity and there is a housing shortage.
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There are roughly 140 million homes in the USA so I am not sure why the article downplays the 3.71% number. It is significant. The peak of the 2008 crash was in 2010 when 1.05 million homes were foreclosed on so by comparison a million people walking away within the next two months would be detrimental to the market.
Couple that with the fact that there are an additional 345K houses still in forbearance from Covid closures and they don't seem to be able to get out of forbearance could make 2023 scary for the RE market
Pace of Forbearance Exits Slows in September
Q3 Foreclosure Rates ‘Reflecting Other Aspects of the Economy’
Year over year is a joke since we shut down for two years. Month-to-month or quarter-to-quarter is the data that we need to be looking at and it is going the wrong way after declining for over a decade.
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Across the U.S., only 3.71% of adults living in owner-occupied housing units aren’t caught up on their mortgage payments. The share of people in owner-occupied households caught up on their payments is 60.43%, while an additional 35.47% don’t need to make payments because they own their homes free and clear.
Of those not caught up on their mortgages, 19.62% across the U.S. report being either somewhat or very likely to leave their home due to foreclosure in the next two months. Though a noteworthy portion of adults who live in households behind on mortgage payments fear being foreclosed on in the near future, it’s important to reiterate that only 3.71% of households nationwide aren’t current on their housing payments.
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There are roughly 140 million homes in the USA so I am not sure why the article downplays the 3.71% number. It is significant. The peak of the 2008 crash was in 2010 when 1.05 million homes were foreclosed on so by comparison a million people walking away within the next two months would be detrimental to the market.
Couple that with the fact that there are an additional 345K houses still in forbearance from Covid closures and they don't seem to be able to get out of forbearance could make 2023 scary for the RE market
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The Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) has reported that the total number of loans now in forbearance as of September 30, 2022 fell by three basis points from 0.72% of servicers’ portfolio volume in the prior month to 0.69%. The MBA estimates there are currently 345,000 U.S. homeowners in forbearance plans.
In the MBA’s latest Loan Monitoring Survey, the share of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans in forbearance decreased two basis points from 0.32% to 0.30%, while Ginnie Mae loans in forbearance increased one basis point from 1.32% to 1.33%. The forbearance share of portfolio loans and private-label securities (PLS) declined 12 basis points from 1.26% to 1.14%.
“The overall number of loans in forbearance dropped in September, but the pace of forbearance exits slowed to a new survey low and new forbearance requests continued to come in. This dynamic in turn prevented any substantial improvement in the forbearance rate,” said Marina Walsh, CMB, MBA’s VP of Industry Analysis. “The COVID-19 federal health emergency is still in effect and in most cases, borrowers can still seek initial COVID-19 hardship forbearance.”
Pace of Forbearance Exits Slows in September
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ATTOM has released its Q3 2022 U.S. Foreclosure Market Report, which shows there were a total of 92,634 U.S. properties with foreclosure filings—defined as default notices, scheduled auctions or bank repossessions—up 3% from Q2 and 104% year-over-year. There were a total of 31,836 U.S. properties with foreclosure filings in September 2022, down 8% from August 2022, but up 62% from September 2021.
Q3 Foreclosure Rates ‘Reflecting Other Aspects of the Economy’
Year over year is a joke since we shut down for two years. Month-to-month or quarter-to-quarter is the data that we need to be looking at and it is going the wrong way after declining for over a decade.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:46 am to stout
Yea, more doom and gloom posts.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:46 am to stout
Don't buy houses you can't afford just because rates were low.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:47 am to stout
Hate that for them. But I have a stable job and been saving for this for a while so I won't complain
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:47 am to DarthRebel
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Yea, more doom and gloom posts.
Don't read it. Keep your head in the sand that an economic shitshow isn't coming I guess.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:48 am to stout
Good thing both my houses paid off.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:49 am to stout
But everyone deserves to own their own homes even though that can't really afford it.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:49 am to stout
And quite a bit of those people went 2 years without paying mortgages. To bad they weren't smart enough to save some of that.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:51 am to GetCocky11
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Don't buy houses, cars, and boats you can't afford just because rates were low.
FIFY
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:52 am to GetCocky11
quote:Bingo. It's also way too easy to get approved for a house that you can't afford. Banks don't care if you have money to eat, as long as the mortgage is paid, you're approved.
Don't buy houses you can't afford just because rates were low.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:52 am to stout
What month would you predict would be best to buy. Like what’s your guess for the next bottom?
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:52 am to stout
There were idiots on this board paying ABOVE appraisal last year for a house
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:52 am to stout
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So many of you saying this wouldn't happen
People just believe what they want to believe anymore. The correction is going to be epic.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:53 am to GetCocky11
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Don't buy houses you can't afford just because rates were low.
Right?
We could’ve gotten a much more expensive home with what the bank was willing to give us. But we planned to live in our home for a decade or so and having both seen multiple recessions knew we needed to make sure we had some breathing room on our mortgage payment in case we saw another. Things have gotten a little tighter but we have plenty of things we could cut out before we’d even think about not making a mortgage payment.
I know several folks who went big and maxed out what was offered and are now struggling because they didn’t account for that.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:55 am to stout
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Don't read it.
Sage advice, you should follow it yourself.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:55 am to BluegrassBelle
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We could’ve gotten a much more expensive home with what the bank was willing to give us.
See it all the time. The same mindset pops up on this board all the time when discussing housing as well. How they need the giant house, that 2,500 sq ft house with the bonus room and 2 car garage just isn't cutting it for their family of 4
Builders know this too, so all the new subdivisions contain these giant homes now that cost a fricking shitton.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:56 am to Corporal Beavis
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Hate that for them. But I have a stable job and been saving for this for a while so I won't complain
This...just switched jobs and was able to go a few months without working without skipping a beat due to planning.
Buying a house is more than just having the down payment and credit...I wish people were better educated on that.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:56 am to DarthRebel
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Yea, more doom and gloom posts.
maybe for you ....ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt.... I see opportunity. hoping it hits the florida gulf coast and the tenn mountain region around gatlinburg and SW missouri the hardest. Got vacation rentals i need to snatch up.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:58 am to canyon
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Good thing both my houses paid off.
imagine being so inept with money that you think this is a good thing when less than a year ago a 30 year morg was below 3% and inflation is well over 5%
now imagine bragging about how inept you are :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:59 am to Jack Daniel
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There were idiots on this board paying ABOVE appraisal last year for a house
Going to be a lot of angst over the next couple of years.
If you're in a good position, the opportunity will be incredible though. Good chance to position yourself well going forward.
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