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re: Nashville PD officer charged with criminal homicide
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:24 pm to slackster
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:24 pm to slackster
Agree on the probable cause part, however once the guy starts running with a gun hes essentially giving probable cause. Why is he running from the police with a gun and not following commands?
Maybe some should do some research on why the guy was running with a gun. Illegal weapon? Drugs and a weapon? Warrants? Are there any articles giving that info? At trial it will come out. He wasnt running out of pure fear of the police.
Not saying the shooting is right or wrong legally or morally. Just saying that when the police say di something, its probably in your best interest to do so. Maybe all these police shooting referendums and rallies should have someone with helpful videos and lessons to show people the correct and incorrect ways to handle things with the police present. Do people not learn from others mistakes. Doesnt fit the narrative i suppose.
Maybe some should do some research on why the guy was running with a gun. Illegal weapon? Drugs and a weapon? Warrants? Are there any articles giving that info? At trial it will come out. He wasnt running out of pure fear of the police.
Not saying the shooting is right or wrong legally or morally. Just saying that when the police say di something, its probably in your best interest to do so. Maybe all these police shooting referendums and rallies should have someone with helpful videos and lessons to show people the correct and incorrect ways to handle things with the police present. Do people not learn from others mistakes. Doesnt fit the narrative i suppose.
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:28 pm to lsufanva
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Not saying the shooting is right or wrong legally or morally. Just saying that when the police say di something, its probably in your best interest to do so
I agree, mainly because they can kill you. However, like you said, it doesn't mean every killing is justified.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:29 pm to slackster
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What was he suspected of doing? There was no probable cause to even approach him.
one could make a valid argument he was acting in good faith that while on proactive criminal patrols, me made an error in thinking this white sedan was the one he had a previous encounter with.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:40 pm to The Pirate King
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This is not relevant at all. Once he brandished firearm on a cop and refused to drop it, that’s a new crime.
So we're to believe the officer that he was brandishing a weapon, the same officer that lied already?
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Delke, an officer assigned to the department's juvenile crimes task force, had been out looking for stolen vehicles in North Nashville.
After the white Chevrolet failed to stop, Delke later encountered Hambrick and two other men inside the vehicle, which was parked at the John Henry Hale public housing apartments.
The TBI reported that Hambrick exited the vehicle and ran, at which time Delke gave chase.
^from the article in early August. It was later determined Delke lied about seeing who was in the original vehicle and couldn't recall how many people were in it. He saw a similar looking vehicle and just assumed it was the same erratic driver.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:42 pm to MorbidTheClown
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gotta shoot em in the leg and de-escalate
Yeah right.....SMDH over that comment!
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:43 pm to brass2mouth
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one could make a valid argument he was acting in good faith that while on proactive criminal patrols, me made an error in thinking this white sedan was the one he had a previous encounter with.
It's possible, sure, but acting in good faith that ends in a wrongful death is still a problem.
Look, in all likelihood, this cop is getting off without a problem. There is limited evidence - no dashboard camera nor personal camera - and courts have show a propensity to give the officer the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:51 pm to slackster
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It's possible, sure, but acting in good faith that ends in a wrongful death is still a problem.
It wouldn't technically be a wrongful death IMO.
Cop sees white sedan with the driver acting suspiciously.
Cop loses sight of white sedan.
Cop spots similar white sedan that he mistakes for previous one and (from what the article states) the driver almost immediately runs (while brandishing a firearm).
Cop thinking this is same guy from earlier gives chase, commands, etc., and the rest is history.
To me, you could make a case and say its similar to a BOLO about say an armed robbery suspect being a black male with an afro, white shirt, and white washed jeans. A cop see a person matching the description and the guy takes off. Once the chase starts the cop has reasonable grounds to believe there's something afoot, especially with a weapon involved. Whether its the actual suspect or not doesn't matter at that point.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:55 pm to brass2mouth
it will be interesting so see if this makes it to a jury trial
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court commissioner had refused to sign the criminal homicide affidavit when prosecutors first presented it on Thursday morning. Prosecutors then took it to a judge, who signed it.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:00 pm to jbgleason
Is Tennessee an open carry state?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:04 pm to brass2mouth
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Whether its the actual suspect or not doesn't matter at that poin
Which is my issue with many of these things - the cops don't have to be right as long as they think they're right.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:06 pm to jbgleason
Cop wasn't justified in shooting him. You can't argue danger to public when there isn't a public anywhere near the suspect. There was no immediate threat to anyone.
This was murder and that fat pig needs to pay for it.
This was murder and that fat pig needs to pay for it.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:11 pm to Beessnax
Give me a fricking break. All the suspect has to do is find a bystander and take them hostage. Or any number of other things that would be a concern of public safety. This police officer should have never been charged.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:12 pm to slackster
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Which is my issue with many of these things - the cops don't have to be right as long as they think they're right.
I understand that sentiment, but for the sake of fairness, when you take off upon first contact you're pretty much validating the cop's thought process.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:19 pm to BayouCatFan
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Give me a fricking break. All the suspect has to do is find a bystander and take them hostage
You can't murder a fellow human being based on what might happen, only what is happening. There wasn't another human being anywhere near him when he was murdered.
This is a replay of the Walter Scott murder. Cop will be found guilty. Open and shut case.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:49 pm to jbgleason
So, at any time, he could have dropped to the ground and shot the officer? Sorry, I'm not outraged. The first fricking thing I'm going to do is drop the gun, regardless if I'm going to run or not.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:51 pm to Beessnax
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You can't murder a fellow human being based on what might happen, only what is happening.
We'll see how you feel when someone breaks into your home while you're there.
But hey, I'm sure you'll take the wait and see approach.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:53 pm to O
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Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
This is such a stupid, over used, phrase that is not in the slightest but funny or witty. It doesn’t even make sense in this scenario.
Stupid, man. Just stupid.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:59 pm to supadave3
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This is such a stupid, over used, phrase that is not in the slightest but funny or witty. It doesn’t even make sense in this scenario.
Stupid, man. Just stupid.
I think you're just dumb, and I'm trying to be nice saying that. He had a gun in his hand while in the presence of police, then continued to run with said gun. In my opinion, that is one stupid fricking game and or chance.
The probabilities of something terrible happening on either end were high, and we all know which side usually is the victor, as it should be in a civilized society. Either we give cops authority, or we don't. If you want to live in a community that doesn't, that's on you. They are easy to find, go see how life is having to put bars over your doors and windows while installing security cameras and locking up any fricking thing that can be sold on a street corner. Albuquerque is near that level, which is why I'm heading the mountains and will commute over an hour a day. It's worth that peace of mind to live around people that appreciate law and order.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:18 pm to AUsteriskPride
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We'll see how you feel when someone breaks into your home while you're there.
I have over 20 weapons in my home. Uncle Sam taught me to shoot very well. The scenario you describe is absolutely a justifiable shooting.
It didn't change the fact that this cop murdered a suspect. Did you watch the video?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:26 pm to Beessnax
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I have over 20 weapons in my home. Uncle Sam taught me to shoot very well. The scenario you describe is absolutely a justifiable shooting.
It didn't change the fact that this cop murdered a suspect. Did you watch the video?
I watched the video. Why does he have to wait and see what is going to happen? He's running with the gun in his hand, he knows the consequences, and at any time he could drop the gun. Also, at any time he could fall to the ground and start firing. Why do we expect cops to show restraint for situations that can threaten their life in a split second.
We should not be treated as cops in these scenarios, because it is not our JOB to give chase. It is theirs. He was repeatedly told to drop his gun yet chose to hang on to it.
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