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NASA spends $1 billion for a launch tower that leans, may only be used once

Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:18 pm
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On Tuesday and Wednesday Vice President Mike Pence will travel to Kennedy Space Center in Florida to tour facilities there and participate in the second meeting of the National Space Council. It is not clear how much of the launch facilities he will see during his visit to Florida, where NASA is spending billions of dollars to build ground systems for the launch of the Space Launch System rocket.

There is one component of the revamped facilities that NASA may be reluctant to show Pence, who in effect oversees all national spaceflight activities as the head of the space council. This is the "mobile launcher" structure, which supports the testing and servicing of the massive SLS rocket, as well as moving it to the launch pad and providing a platform from which it will launch.

According to a new report in NASASpaceflight.com, the expensive tower is "leaning" and "bending." For now, NASA says, the lean is not sufficient enough to require corrective action, but it is developing contingency plans in case the lean angle becomes steeper.

These defects raise concerns about the longevity of the launch tower and increase the likelihood that NASA will seek additional funding to build a second one. In fact, it is entirely possible that the launch tower may serve only for the maiden flight of the SLS rocket in 2020 and then be cast aside. This would represent a significant waste of resources by the space agency.


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A very costly tower

Construction on the structure began nine years ago when NASA needed a mobile launcher for a different rocket, the Ares I vehicle. According to NASA's inspector general, Paul Martin, the agency spent $234 million to originally build the launch tower. However, after the government's Ares I and V rockets were canceled due to delays and cost overruns in 2010, NASA was left without much of a use for the large structure, which consists of a two-story base, a 355-foot-tall tower, and facility ground support systems.

In 2011, after Congress directed NASA to build a new large rocket, the SLS, the agency began studying its options to launch the booster. These trade studies found that modifying the existing mobile launcher would cost $54 million, modifying the Space Shuttle Mobile Launcher Platforms would cost $93 million, and constructing a new mobile launch platform would cost $122 million. Ultimately, the agency opted for the lowest-cost option—modifying the Ares mobile launcher—but unfortunately those preliminary cost estimates turned out to be wildly optimistic.

Instead of costing just $54 million, the US Government Accountability Office found that NASA spent $281.8 million revamping the mobile launcher from fiscal years 2012 to 2015, but still the work was not done. The recently released White House budget for fiscal year 2019 reveals that NASA anticipates spending an additional $396.2 million on the mobile launcher from 2015 through the maiden launch of the SLS, probably in 2020.

Therefore, from the tower's inception in 2009, NASA will have spent $912 million on the mobile launcher it may use for just a single launch of the SLS rocket. Moreover, the agency will have required eight years to modify a launch tower it built in two years.


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For $1B, you'd have hoped for a little less lean.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:26 pm to
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For $1B, you'd have hoped for a little less lean.


I could make a whole lot of lean for a billion

You’d all think you were in space
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:28 pm to
What is the point of the space program
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60171 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:29 pm to
Supposedly when president Obama visited the site he requested $57k worth of "succulent hot dogs" whatever that is
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27969 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:30 pm to
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What is the point of the space program


Cut the cord
Posted by surprisewitness
Littleton, CO
Member since Apr 2013
595 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:32 pm to
SpaceX's Falcon Heavy can haul about 1/2 of SLS but can do it at $90 million a launch. We're talking $1B just for the launch platform.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:36 pm to
Govt at work.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32445 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:37 pm to
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SpaceX's Falcon Heavy can haul about 1/2 of SLS but can do it at $90 million a launch. We're talking $1B just for the launch platform.


Exactly. And the snowflakes want a national run health care?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20408 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:41 pm to
I have been on the shuttle platform and it is enormous. I can see how it can cost a lot but that was for something that worked. This, on the other hand, apparently doesn’t. They need to look at the Contracting folks. Seems the builder would be on the hook for this.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:42 pm to
Yeah, I'd rather let SpaceX handle all of this. They're clearly far more fiscally responsible than NASA.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:42 pm to
It isn't like they are rocket scientist...
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:37 pm to
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Exactly. And the snowflakes want a national run health care?


Very comparable subjects
Posted by bigrob385series
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Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:41 pm to
At least we get to witness tax dollars being burned up in the sky rather than in some politicians pocket.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:49 pm to
The same people whining about this are gonna whine about elon and spaceX getting federal grant money
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32445 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:50 pm to
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Very comparable subjects


Tell me an industry that a government runs more efficiently than the private sector.

I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15337 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:13 pm to
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What is the point of the space program


I can't determine if you're a liberal nutjob that thinks we should the money on inner cities so that the same shite that always goes on continues.
Or if you're a holy roller that thinks that venturing beyond earth is somehow "evil."
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3458 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:35 pm to
$1B? That's it? I would have thought it had been more. That one tower cost about 5% of NASA's budget for 2019. But NASA is slightly less than half of one percent (0.4%) of the federal budget for FY2018. It's nothing.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:33 pm to
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The same people whining about this are gonna whine about elon and spaceX getting federal grant money

Got em
Posted by Coomdaddy
KY
Member since Aug 2017
421 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:56 pm to
Worked out pretty well for Pisa.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:57 pm to
Thanks Obama
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