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re: NASA: Humans will prove we are not alone in the universe within 20 years.

Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:05 am to
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:05 am to
What? You don't need to physically travel to another planet to prover there is life there. I'm wondering what their criteria for concluding it is.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 9:17 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:08 am to
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You don't need to physically travel to another planet to prover their is life there. I'm wondering what their criteria for concluding it is.



I think they can do some special science stuff that can tell if a planet has the required ingredients for life, like water and the right temperature and stuff.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:16 am to
That doesn't prove life though, just earth like conditions.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:17 am to
Look man, I'm not a rocket surgeon. I just posted the link.
Posted by hoopsgalore
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:26 am to
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NASA predicts that 100 million worlds in our own Milky Way galaxy may host alien life, and space program scientists estimate that humans will be able to find life within two decades.


You know what's crazy? This is just one galaxy, our galaxy alone.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:37 am to
The numbers really are crazy if you try to really grasp the scope of the known universe.

after that, I like to spend some time pondering what is beyond the known universe. I struggle considering a truly infinite area without any physical boundaries. what is on the edge of the universe? what is that border made of? how think is it? what is on the other side of it. There's almost a primal fear of something being truly boundless.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:14 am to
I actually don't think humans are capable of comprehending something so vast. I mean 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone? And there are billions upon billions of galaxies.. We can say the numbers, but I really believe no one can truly put into their mind's perspective how big that really is.
Posted by TheBorg
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:14 am to
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And these aliens better share the warp drive technology with us when we find them


That would be against the Prime Directive. We would have to achieve warp capabilities first, then they will establish contact. From there, I'd assume we can, if we want, join their Federation.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:18 am to
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I actually don't think humans are capable of comprehending something so vast. I mean 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone? And there are billions upon billions of galaxies.. We can say the numbers, but I really believe no one can truly put into their mind's perspective how big that really is.


Humans can't really comprehend distances much beyond hunting range. And, if you think about it, that makes perfect evolutionary sense.

If we grabbed a guy who routinely ran marathons, put him on an unknown road and told him he wasn't allowed to pace count, had to walk and couldn't have a watch. Then said, walk 26 miles right now. I'd bet my paycheck he wouldn't come within 5 miles of being right.

You're right. We can say the numbers, but that's about it.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:22 am to
I mean it is everything we talk about. Distance is really screwy but time always gets me.

Seeing fossils from 250 million years ago. Meteorites that are older than the Earth, etc.

I can't even comprehend a century let alone millions of centuries.

Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:24 am to
Screw the universe for being too mysterious and hard to understand
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:25 am to
So we either wait until the human brain does evolve to the point of being able to comprehend these things, in which case the human race will surely die out first being that there is no evolutionary drive to need to understand and we don't let the weak die out prior to reproduction anymore, or we develop the AI to assist us, eventually turning into us, or us into them.

Then does it even matter?
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:37 am to
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Then does it even matter?


Yeah it does bro. frickin aliens!
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:43 am to
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That would be against the Prime Directive. We would have to achieve warp capabilities first, then they will establish contact. From there, I'd assume we can, if we want, join their Federation.


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TheBorg


But seriously, what if Star Trek go it wrong. What if the criteria for first contact according to the prime directive wasn't warp capability but the ability to harness the atom. That would explain why there has been so many UFO sightings since WWII and why the most famous UFO conspiracy was at Roswell, near where we invented and tested the first A-Bomb.

:mindblown:
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:54 am to
Who knows what we will find through a telescope 100 light years away.

The more I think on this topic, the more I start to believe that purely organic life will not be able to grasp the concepts necessary for intergalactic travel. It will be a species with integrated AI. I can't imagine them not being Borg like with no consideration other than to assimilate us into their collective, or exterminate us if we are found to be incompatible.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:54 am to
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But seriously, what if Star Trek go it wrong. What if the criteria for first contact according to the prime directive wasn't warp capability but the ability to harness the atom. That would explain why there has been so many UFO sightings since WWII and why the most famous UFO conspiracy was at Roswell, near where we invented and tested the first A-Bomb.


Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:54 am to
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Because they completely throw out the laws of physics that people who hate on religion cling to.

Interstellar Travel? It takes 10 months to get to Mars.




Please tell me what law of physics that prohibits interstellar travel.


I bet you haven't even heard of the Alcubierre drive either.....

Hugely impractical considering our currently ability, yes.


Physically impossible?

Nope.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:58 am to
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But seriously, what if Star Trek go it wrong. What if the criteria for first contact according to the prime directive wasn't warp capability but the ability to harness the atom. That would explain why there has been so many UFO sightings since WWII and why the most famous UFO conspiracy was at Roswell, near where we invented and tested the first A-Bomb.



Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I'm not trying to but I am really curious how religious people will respond to the news


Why would religious people care? Is there a religion that says there is no life outside of earth?
Posted by DanTiger
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:02 pm to
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The more I think on this topic, the more I start to believe that purely organic life will not be able to grasp the concepts necessary for intergalactic travel. It will be a species with integrated AI. I can't imagine them not being Borg like with no consideration other than to assimilate us into their collective, or exterminate us if we are found to be incompatible.


I watched that show as well but I am not sold on it. I don't believe we can travel at the speed of light and so that makes the likelihood of intelligent organic life, like us, traveling to another inhabited planet VERY unlikely. In order for some sort of AI to make a trip to another inhabitable planet we would need to be able to harness energy from nothing. There will be no solar power for VERY large portions of the trip so I just don't see how it can be done. Also, just because we believe a planet can sustain life does not mean that there is life there. In order to stack the odds in our favor we would need to send out 1000s of these AI manned ships all over the galaxy and the human race would likely be extinct by the time they were able to tell us.

If you all want to travel to other inhabitable planets you had better hope that wormholes are real and that we can utilize them. I just don't see us developing at the necessary pace to master interstellar travel before we are wiped out by an asteroid some other event. The irony of this is that I believe conditions do not favor any life on any planet developing the ability to travel to other planets outside of ther solar system before they go extinct.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 12:08 pm
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