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re: NASA admits it’s Space Launch System rocket is unaffordable.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:54 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:54 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The report found that the space agency “does not plan to measure production costs to monitor the affordability of its most powerful rocket.” In addition to the nearly $12 billion already spent developing the SLS rocket, NASA asked for more than $11 billion in its most recent budget request to fund the program for the next four years, according to the report.
All that money went to Ukraine
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:16 pm to AlwysATgr
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Nobody ever said putting the first woman (with preferred pronouns) and a person of color on the moon would be cheap.
Big decision will be will they do it during black history month, women's appreciation month, or LGBTQ++ and beyond pride month?
And don't make Nelson open up a can of DEI on Elon
Definition of having nothing to add to the conversation.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:40 am to SlimTigerSlap
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Definition of having nothing to add to the conversation.
Or maybe you don't understand the lunacy (pun intended) of today's NASA and its misguided priorities.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:11 am to MoarKilometers
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Just so we're still clear, trips to the moon... sls 1 spacex 0
SpaceX could have sent a Falcon Heavy to the moon years ago. Musk preferred to focus on a long term solution.
NASA mentions Falcon Heavy
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 7:12 am
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:39 am to MoarKilometers
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Just so we're still clear, trips to the moon... sls 1 spacex 0
The only reason SpaceX isnt much further along already is because FAA gets to determine when they fly.
Once SLS gets to the moon you'll suddenly see the FAA letting SpaceX and others do what they want.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:40 am to RollTide1987
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The Apollo program alone cost us around $260 billion in today's dollars.
And even before Neil and Buzz landed, the feds started cutting budgets for the missions.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:40 am to elprez00
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The spacecraft and srbs are both reusable.
I look forward to the SLS landing at the cape following each launch just like SpaceX.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:43 am to NYNolaguy1
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Once SLS gets to the moon
SLS already made it there and back, safely... 5 months before SpaceX had to abort their launch a minute.5 in.
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The only reason SpaceX isnt much further along already is because FAA gets to determine when they fly.
Any reason why they got grounded? Certainly it wasn't for not being able to control their rocket
And ULA absolutely has a FAA launch license, just like SpaceX... well, minus the temporarily suspended part.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:52 am to MoarKilometers
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SLS already made it there and back, safely... 5 months before SpaceX had to abort their launch a minute.5 in.
Development of the SLS started in 2011. Development of the Starship began in 2019.
And you clearly are ignorant of the SpaceX design philosophy. Most people, including Musk, weren’t even sure the Starship would clear the tower on the first attempt. They knew the launch pad wasn’t strong enough for the rocket but decided to launch anyway with plans to reinforce the pad after the first launch. Although they didn’t expect the damage to be as bad as it was. The only real unexpected event of the 1st Starship launch was the failure of the flight termination system(self destruct). It took nearly 45 seconds to self destruct the rocket when it should be nearly instantaneous.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:03 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:10 am to concrete_tiger
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And on queue... the left starts attacking Space X for monopolizing space.
I didn’t see anyone attacking SpaceX in that article. Just an admission of the obvious, that SpaceX is light years ahead of everyone else in the market, and that includes superpower government like the US and China.
I think competition in the market is a good thing. Hopefully ULA and Blue Origin catch up sooner rather than later. It fuels technology growth and lower prices for the consumer.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:14 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I didn’t see anyone attacking SpaceX in that article.
If you say so. The consensus in the nerd community is this is a "dog whistle" to the government. I.e. intervene in some government-y way, be it prop up competition (i.e. those that can be invested in).
I agree that competition is good, and Space X created an entire industry. How many private rocket companies existed before this?
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Correct, we should be hoping for more competition in the market. It will fuel the space race at a faster pace.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:26 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I remember a story (not sure if true) that in the early days of our space program we spent like 6 million dollars on a pen that would write in zero gravity.
The russians used a pencil and cut the eraser off so changes could not be made.
The russians used a pencil and cut the eraser off so changes could not be made.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:28 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Artemis was an obsolete pink elephant from the beginning. The advent of reusable rockets and private companies running circles around NASA rendered it so.
A Lunar mission could be done quickly and cost effectively by simply lofting the lunar craft into space with a few "low" cost shots. Some assembly required.
The Apollo missions used only one engine to get to and from the Moon.
A Lunar mission could be done quickly and cost effectively by simply lofting the lunar craft into space with a few "low" cost shots. Some assembly required.
The Apollo missions used only one engine to get to and from the Moon.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:35 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Just give Elon the keys and ask him to get us to the moon.
Elon's probably already been to the moon again and just didn't tell anybody.
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