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re: Name one non-religious reason to care if someone else is homosexual?

Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:50 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:50 am to
I'm still eagerly awaiting Redbone's reply
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:06 am to
Sexual misconduct, period:

See Game of Thrones
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:07 am to
Wow, this thread is a shite show.

The fact that homosexuality occurs is enough to deem it natural. Various species in the animal kingdom display homosexual tendencies. How can someone deny that it is natural?

As for the argument that if it was natural we would die out.

First of all, mutations in genes aren't always "for the benefit of the species" like someone earlier suggested. Mutations occur, most are benign, some are bad, and some are good.

While I personally think there is a genetic component to homosexuality, I do believe it is mostly in how the brain is wired. It most certainly is not a choice. I don't consciously choose who i'm attracted too. Why would I assume a man would fight his "nature" to be attracted to a man by choice? That makes no sense.

Additionally, i'm also FOR the freedom of speech. Call homosexuals whatever you want to call them. Just be prepared for more flamboyent displays of their lifestyle. Newton's Third Law.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:12 am to
the main non-religious issue is that gay men are exponentially more likely to contract/spread AIDS

this is a reality that is oft-ignored, and it is a legitimate part of the policy debate...but you'll be called a bigot if you bring it up

i'm pro-freedom for homosexuals, but i don't want to pay for the medical treatment arising from their risky behaviors.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:14 am to
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Because two male species are not biologically engineered to take part in sexual contact. That's why.


it is definitely a biological defect, but if we were to apply your argument to a wider discussion, blowjobs would be outlawed

frick that shite
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:14 am to
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God can still block them at the gates


God doesn't block you at the "gates" for your sin. If he did, no one could enter. Every single person on the face of this Earth has sinned (probably millions of times).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:17 am to
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Drinking Diet Coke isn't natural.

The whole argument is just a thinly veiled excuse for their hatred and bigotry.

ah, but what is the line?

like i've said 1,000 times on the poli board by now...i want to wrap up all of these "oppressed classes" of people in one societal swoop. other than gays, who else do we need to warp our judicial system to protect with extra rights? i don't want to have this discussion ever 5-10 years with some new group

so what is the list?
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:43 am to
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i'm pro-freedom for homosexuals, but i don't want to pay for the medical treatment arising from their risky behaviors.


I just don't like this argument applied to pretty much any topic. This excuse can be used to argue for the control of any and all aspects of people's lives. I think that it's only decent use is arguing against public healthcare, which I don't really want to get into right now.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:48 am to
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i'm pro-freedom for homosexuals, but i don't want to pay for the medical treatment arising from their risky behaviors.


or smokers
or fatties
or dickheads who refuse to buy health insurance
Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:05 am to
If they are prissy bitches I find that irritating.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:21 am to
Holy shite, this thread has brought out the tards.
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:22 am to
Funny, many of the people now citing "religious reasons" against gay marriage are the same ones (and their parents) who 30-40 years ago who thought interracial marriage was unnatural and anti-Christian.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:19 am to
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wtf is natural? certainly marriage isn't natural


Killing things that offend me comes natural to me. You think I should do this?
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:20 am to
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The whole argument is just a thinly veiled excuse for their hatred and bigotry.


Don't put a veil on my hatred and bigotry. It comes natural so I roll with it.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:22 am to
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how do homosexuals impact your life on a daily basis?


It started when I was about 12. One of those cocksuckers (literally one) tried to coax me into his house.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:24 am to
Rick Perry says it's like alcoholism, you may be predisposed to it, but can choose not to be gay, setting up clinics to "cure" you
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:25 am to
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The whole argument is just a thinly veiled excuse for their hatred and bigotry.



There it is
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:25 am to
That's fact. You here.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 10:26 am
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:33 am to
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all the "it's not natural" people crack me up

It is definitely "natural". I grew up 2 houses down from a guy that was effeminate from the earliest age. His only "choice" was to act on it when he got to a point in life where he knew what sex acts were.

I was always nice to him as I have been to every queer person in my life. Being disgusted by them has been natural to my alpha male leanings.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:52 am to
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It is definitely "natural". I grew up 2 houses down from a guy that was effeminate from the earliest age. His only "choice" was to act on it when he got to a point in life where he knew what sex acts were.


Interesting. So this kid who can't help his leanings, should just hide in the closet to avoid offending you alpha males? Surely he isn't a threat to you? He isn't competing for your women, nor is he after you. Well, except for that time when y'all were 11, and maybe experimented a little. But still, he should base his lifestyle on what you find acceptible.
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