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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:16 am to Centinel
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That sounds like....I can't quite put my finger on it.... What's the word I'm looking for when the government denies your ability to exercise a right?
You’re going to be alright I promise.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:17 am to jangalang
And you’re also going to be alright. I promise.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:18 am to jangalang
I don’t want to read through pages of gun control debate regurgitation. Can anyone update if there is info on suspects or what led to the shooting?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:18 am to jangalang
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Was the government in the right to place a 200 dollar tax on the TommyGun?
Yes they were.
Not according to the text of the second amendment
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:20 am to WDE24
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I don’t want to read through pages of gun control debate regurgitation. Can anyone update if there is info on suspects or what led to the shooting?
OP should just update title to gun control debate and start another thread. I’m not sure this one can be redeemed.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:20 am to jangalang
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You’re going to be alright I promise.
The reason why I ask you for definitions and logical frameworks for things is literally every comment in this vein that you post could literally be directed back at you with minimal effort and no loss of consistency.
You are offering your own personal value judgements as though they are common to all people and they simply are not.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:20 am to pankReb
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I understand combat loads better than you.
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I understand combat loads better than you.
Unless you have toted a combat load of 5.56 rounds and other times a combat load of 7.62 , you will never understand.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:21 am to jangalang
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There is no logical reason why populace need a 50 round drum of 7.62. Saying otherwise is not using common sense.
For all the reasons the forefathers intended. A disarmed populace becomes at best a criminals dream, at worst a dictatorship. Proven time and again through history. Look at England, they are trying to ban kitchen knives currently
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:23 am to Ross
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You are offering your own personal value judgements as though they are common to all people and they simply are not.
You know why these people don’t share my opinion. They have “don’t tread on me” tattoos and shite.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:29 am to jangalang
so “common sense” to you seems to be “sensibilities that are shared amongst those who share my belief systems and value judgements”
Nifty.
Nifty.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:31 am to Ross
It’s shared on a practical standpoint as well. Do you believe it to be practical to be toting a 50 round 7.62 drum around the woods in BFE for hunting purposes. Please enlighten me why that’s practical at all. Target practice? Why?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:32 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Y’all still arguing about rifle ammo? It looks like only handguns were involved.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:33 am to jangalang
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Do you believe it to be practical to be toting a 50 round 7.62 drum around the woods in BFE for hunting purposes. Please enlighten me why that’s practical at all.
When did laws become based on practicality?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:35 am to jangalang
I don’t see why people ought to bare any burden to justify that to you.
My philosophy of government dictates that one has to articulate where the limitations of rights are, because the rights in general have been granted by federal law. I think it is reasonable to expect a logically consistent standard and rational framework for evaluation of where those limitations ought to be.
In other words, it is those advocating for restrictions who ought to justify why the restrictions should exist, not the other way around.
My philosophy of government dictates that one has to articulate where the limitations of rights are, because the rights in general have been granted by federal law. I think it is reasonable to expect a logically consistent standard and rational framework for evaluation of where those limitations ought to be.
In other words, it is those advocating for restrictions who ought to justify why the restrictions should exist, not the other way around.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:41 am to jangalang
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You know why these people don’t share my opinion.
Because your opinion is stupid and isn't based on truths.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:42 am to kengel2
Did they ever find who the shooter was?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:48 am to jangalang
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More like inconvenience. Government could easily slap an extra form on any wanting to purchase extended magazines that are beyond the norm and your rights would still be intact.
Now spell out how this would cut down on gun violence or mass shootings IN ANY WAY. Let's not forget the reason this whole debate started - this event that happened in Dadeville where only handguns were involved.
Really break it down for us, instead of the old "we have to do something, common sense, blah blah blah" empty platitudes.
We'll wait.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:48 am to Ross
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In other words, it is those advocating for restrictions who ought to justify why the restrictions ought to exist, not the other way around.
That is the way it should be and the way it was for a whole decade. The limitations are there in black and white:
Can the ban make the populace safer. Yes
Are there alternatives to the banned instrument for citizens to pick up instead- yes
Is the ban narrowly tailored to accommomolish what is in state’s interest. Yes
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:49 am to SOLA
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Did they ever find who the shooter was?
There was a shooting?
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