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Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:47 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:47 am to BowlJackson
Hoodrats killing one another over a drug deal does not count as a mass shooting to most americans.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:47 am to BK Lounge
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Why all the dancing around ? Why not just say what you want to say, pussy ?
People in the lower class mindset are more prone to violent behavior and represent a disproportionate amount of violent crimes in the US, per capita. Pretty much any social pathology that you can think of can replace "are more prone to violent behavior" and it would fit.
Rejection of education
Obesity
Single parent families
Drug use
Smoking
Alcohol abuse
Reliance on social benefits
etc.
It's not a white thing or a black thing or anything to do with race. It's a culture and a mindset.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:48 am to Martini
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There are plenty restrictions on gun
Ownership now that aren’t illegal and are pretty well accepted by gun owners.
Sure
The people in here are arguing for more.
That "more" is illegal
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:49 am to TDTOM
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He is looking for a reason to call you a racist.
I know but statistics aren't racist.
One group overwhelmingly commits a large percentage of all violent crimes. It's not due to guns but is obviously a cultural issue.
That culture might never exist if it weren't for the welfare state we have in this country.
Those that want to ban guns and use other countries as examples never look and compare the cultural differences.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:49 am to auggie
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You should already know the truth, admit it to yourself and things can get better. If you need me to tell you the truth, you are part of the problem and you should take yourself out.
This is a (mostly) anonymous message board .
If you have a firm belief , a conviction about something- then i dont understand all the pussyfooting around in this thread .. Let’s all just be honest with each other .
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:49 am to Tusksup
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Hoodrats killing one another over a drug deal does not count as a mass shooting to most americans.
The people who define "mass shooting" in this way are definitely using Sophistry.
They define it in such a way to include urban-gang crimes, but then put the focus on more affluent threats in areas where crime is less prevalent, but then pretend like they're not just calling out lower SES-urban youths. It's quite the feat that plenty of idiots parrot without thinking.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:50 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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You think this mentally ill freak wants the guns removed from the actual criminals? No. Read his posts.
That's all these leftist know. Ban shite.
Progressives banned alcohol, didn't work. There are 450 million guns in this country, "Banning" will create a more violent, black market for firearms.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's not a white thing or a black thing or anything to do with race. It's a culture and a mindset.
Yes, this is true in relation to your post and many examples but from a purely statistical POV when related to crime, it is an overwhelmingly black male thing.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:51 am to stout
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If welfare were never a thing, then ghettos and gangs would never have come into existence, and crime statistics, where 6% of the population (black males) create almost 50% of all crime would be drastically different. Is that what you are looking for?
You arent the poster i quoted who said there was an “obvious cure”.
I dont understand why we cant all just say what we mean here .
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:52 am to stout
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It's the progressive way. Reactive instead of proactive and take the quickest shortcut they can that doesn't do anything to solve the actual problem other than make them feel good because now they have more control over the general public.
Yes, it's treating symptoms not the illness. It's like taking a cough drop for the flu. Might sooth your sore throat and make you feel better temporarily but does nothing to abate the illness.
And one can rant like say Steve Kerr did and get pats on the back for your bravery for championing something that has little or no effect on stopping these terrible things that happen and never will.
If bad people want to kill they will find a way. Waiting periods and restrictions on whatever weapons you want to restrict....that ain't stopping it.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:53 am to BK Lounge
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f you have a firm belief , a conviction about something- then i dont understand all the pussyfooting around in this thread .. Let’s all just be honest with each other .
Please don't engage this idiot either.
Like BowlJackson, there is no logical conversations to be had with people who just want a "gotcha" so they can label political enemies.
Just ignore idiots like this.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:54 am to StringedInstruments
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Imagine a white male teen showed up at a party in the suburbs and shot 30 people? I
Now imagine the press response if a white male teen showed up at an urban party and shot 30 black people.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:54 am to stout
quote:
but from a purely statistical POV when related to crime, it is an overwhelmingly black male thing.
Sure but there are historical issues at play, there, explaining why a higher portion of the population is subject to the LCM.
There are other esoteric issues, as well. Rural people of the lower class mindset are less likely to resort to gun violence because they live in extremely less dense areas. It just so happens that urbanity is more common with black people of the LCM, which increases the likelihood of particular forms of violence.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:55 am to Tiger Ugly
Not to get back on track, but it appears the police gave an update at 8:30am :
“The Alabama Law Enforcement Agency confirmed in a statement just before 8:30 a.m. that at least four people were killed in the Dadeville mass shooting.“
“The Alabama Law Enforcement Agency confirmed in a statement just before 8:30 a.m. that at least four people were killed in the Dadeville mass shooting.“
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:55 am to Bobby OG Johnson
See, the OP makes it seem like someone shot up a small child's birthday party and a lot of children got killed.
What really happened seems to be there was some party late at night and then some hoodrats were beefing and decided to shoot it up, likely with stolen weapons.
The beef probably originated from some "diss" on social media".
Since it doesn't fit the media's agenda, it will be largely ignored and buried within a week.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
People in the lower class mindset are more prone to violent behavior and represent a disproportionate amount of violent crimes in the US, per capita. Pretty much any social pathology that you can think of can replace "are more prone to violent behavior" and it would fit. Rejection of education Obesity Single parent families Drug use Smoking Alcohol abuse Reliance on social benefits etc. It's not a white thing or a black thing or anything to do with race. It's a culture and a mindset.
Agreed, 100% .
You’re right, you cannot argue with statistics…. I think you are dead-on.. but im still genuinely confused about what this other poster’s “obvious cure” is for all the problems and statistics you quoted.. i honestly want to know what this so obvious cure is, that it’s gonna solve all the problems (legit problematic stats) you quoted in ur post .
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:56 am to BK Lounge
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Sure but there are historical issues at play, there, explaining why a higher portion of the population is subject to the LCM. There are other esoteric issues, as well. Rural people of the lower class mindset are less likely to resort to gun violence because they live in extremely less dense areas. It just so happens that urbanity is more common with black people of the LCM, which increases the likelihood of particular forms of violence.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:57 am to stout
Everything you love about Dadeville is because of Birmingham people.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:57 am to Boston911
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This is incorrect. The M16A2 came with the semi, burst and FA, the M4 was the next version with semi, burst and FA, then the M4A1 came out around 2012 with semi and FA only.
I know what my rifle shot. It certainly wasn’t no fricking full auto and I was 11B.
I’m willing to bet only special ops have full auto and even they don’t need it. They can make their guns sing in harmony in controlled pairs.
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