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re: My little ones were sitting on the sofa with me while I was watching the draft

Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Korkstand


ok...its obvious now that you are gay...if you want the right to be gay...you can have it...but quit trying to make everybody else accept what you do...i dont have to..and i wont...my kids will be taught right from wrong...it is your inability to accept that you are wrong that is trying to force me to teach them to be tolerant of you...im sure the theif feels the same way about what he does...that he is doing it cause he "needs" it..or whatever else...frick that...doesnt make it right...now hate...that is not something I support...for anbody..cause I myself sin and do things wrong...do i want to be hated?...no...but do i expect for everybody to just be cool with my fault?


no
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:43 pm to
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I am n to trying to suppose how any other child in any other situation would react. I can only speak to how my kid reacted to it the first time he saw it. I'm sorry if his reaction doe not fit your worldview.

I'm sorry if it wasn't clear, but I'm saying that your kid's reaction fits my worldview exactly. First exposure to ANYTHING that is contrary to what a kid has always known will elicit a negative, or at least odd, reaction.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:43 pm to
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Stop making everyone have to be okay with it.



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Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171941 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:44 pm to
Anybody up in here uncircumcised?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:45 pm to
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..im sure the theif feels the same way about what he does...that he is doing it cause he "needs" it..or whatever else


I'm really enjoying how you keep comparing being gay to being thief

one has absolutely zero affect on you, while the other could potentially steal valuable possessions from you, yet to you, they are the same



Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:45 pm to
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Yes, because things like this is definitely a way to gain acceptance. I'm sure their thoughts were, "let's be as obscene and vulgar as possible, that way people will accept us." The parades are basically an attempt at IRL trolling. They do it to try to get people angry.

Wow, awesome job finding the cream of the crop of gays to post pics of to support your view.
quote:

okay. You're just going to completely ignore the genetics aspect of it.
Wtfrick? I am saying that homosexuality is exactly as genetic as other differences we have in brain chemistry. You are the one ignoring that. What the frick sort of imbalance do you have to not get this?
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:45 pm to
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you shouldn't....my boys are very well behaved, make straight A's, and play multiple sports...and they have been to Disney, Gatlinburg, major sporting events, etc. mulitple times....they have a damn good life and are very happy...and they like and hang around with lots of pretty girls...


I wish I had a dollar for every father of a gay son who has said the same thing.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6036 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:45 pm to
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So if those are the two parts of the New Testament that mention it's "wrong to be gay" then why is it every time a christian mentions it's wrong in the bible they bring up the Leviticus line.




Simply put, many Christians use the teachings of the Bible out of context. In Leviticus 18:1-30, laws are given, relating to sexual practices, which would eliminate the abominations being practiced by Israelites in the time of Moses.

Christians shouldn't quote only Leviticus and I dislike when anyone (christian or non christian) misrepresent the Bible by taking out context.

In reality, the Bible calls for a balance between what some people think are two opposing reactions, condemnation and compassion. God's condemnation of homosexuality is abundantly clear, He opposes it in every age.

- In the patriarchs (Genesis 19:1-28)
- In the Law of Moses (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13)
- In the Prophets (Ezekiel 16:46-50)
- In the New Testament (Romans 1:18-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Jude 7-8)

Why does God condemn homosexuality? Because it overturns God's fundamental design for human relationships, a design that pictures the complementary relationship between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:18-25; Matthew 19:4-6; Ephesians 5:22-33).

Edit: Unfortunately, the Bible is constantly taken out of context to push agendas because one passage can fit on a facebook wall photo easier than an entire sermon.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

ok...its obvious now that you are gay...if you want the right to be gay...you can have it...but quit trying to make everybody else accept what you do...i dont have to..and i wont...my kids will be taught right from wrong...it is your inability to accept that you are wrong that is trying to force me to teach them to be tolerant of you...im sure the theif feels the same way about what he does...that he is doing it cause he "needs" it..or whatever else...frick that...doesnt make it right...now hate...that is not something I support...for anbody..cause I myself sin and do things wrong...do i want to be hated?...no...but do i expect for everybody to just be cool with my fault?


no
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21610 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Moustache, Im still wanting to know if you chose to be attracted to women and could choose to be attracted to men since homosexuality is 100% a choice and all.



You've grossly oversimplified the premise.

First of all, let's not use anecdotal evidence. For example, "I have a friend, and he was always a little girly." or "I have a freind who wishes he wasn't gay." There are just as many examples of people who say they chose to be gay, like Cynthia nixon.

I like to look at scientific evidence. There is no proof that people are born gay. Now, they may have a mental infatuation or some other type of environmental factor (many gays come from broken homes, sexual abuse, etc. etc. just like pedophiles and other fetishes), but there is absolutely no proof they were born that way.

People all have a choice as to how they will express their sexual inclinations. Some are sinful, some are not. Scientifically, it's all a choice.

Why are there people who were sinning and practicing homosexuality, now choosing not to?

Asking me whether I could choose to be attracted to men doesn't really follow. It's not a sin I struggle with. Everybody has different sins they struggle with, and most are certainly more environmental than natural.

Environmental factors that could correlate (NOT CAUSE) a child to have homosexual struggles/pre-dispostions would be:

Poor parental relationships
Sexual abuse as a child
Violent/broken home
Early interest in sex
Childhood friends/family members who are gay for an influence

Of course, people who experience these things don't all "become gay", but a large portion of homosexuals had some type of issue as a child. The same goes for pedophiles or any other type of sexual fetish. However, as human beings, we are born to be able to reason and reject or try to avoid the things we know as sins.


Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6771 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:47 pm to
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I don't want to see men kiss on TV. I don't think it has to be shoved down my throat; it's okay, America, I accept that people are homosexual and I'm okay with it. In fact, I really don't give a shite. Stop making everyone have to be okay with it.


But you do have a problem with it. You are saying that you don't care if people are homosexual as long as you don't have to see it at all. That they should keep all this affection towards each other to themselves...like in a "closet"
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

im an idiot?...scientific evidence supporting homosexuality as natural...bring it
List of mammals displaying homosexual behavior

It doesn't get any more "natural" that nature itself.

Did I bring it hard enough?
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21610 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

So I'm bigoted against bigots? That's fine.


So Christians to you= bigot.

You are the definition of a bigot.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

But you do have a problem with it. You are saying that you don't care if people are homosexual as long as you don't have to see it at all. That they should keep all this affection towards each other to themselves...like in a "closet"
Maybe I do think it's gross. So what? I don't care what they do, but I don't want to see or have it talked about on every sports show or social radio show for three months. We get it, people are gay. Cool. Now, just leave it alone. Nobody is gay bashing.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
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What about people who do make the choice? Where do they fall into this discussion?

Do these people exist? I know some gay people try really hard (and fail) to be straight, but I have never heard of someone trying to be gay.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21610 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Wow, awesome job finding the cream of the crop of gays to post pics of to support your view.


Just like you use the Westboro people to judge Christians. Just trying to give you a look in the mirror how ridiculous you're being.

quote:

tfrick? I am saying that homosexuality is exactly as genetic as other differences we have in brain chemistry. You are the one ignoring tha


There is no gay gene that has been scientifically proven. There have been genes tied to addiction, etc. that have been proven. How can you not get that? You're assuming, without evidence, that being gay is genetic. You're the one acting illogically here. I'm just spouting the facts.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

ok...its obvious now that you are gay...if you want the right to be gay...you can have it...but quit trying to make everybody else accept what you do...i dont have to..and i wont...my kids will be taught right from wrong...it is your inability to accept that you are wrong that is trying to force me to teach them to be tolerant of you...im sure the theif feels the same way about what he does...that he is doing it cause he "needs" it..or whatever else...frick that...doesnt make it right...now hate...that is not something I support...for anbody..cause I myself sin and do things wrong...do i want to be hated?...no...but do i expect for everybody to just be cool with my fault?


Golf clap.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19245 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

everybody has different sins they struggle with


Do you consider premarital sex to be as sinful as homosexuality?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
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However, as human beings, we are born to be able to reason and reject or try to avoid the things we know as sins.


this sounds like something someone with a lot of repressed gay feelings would say

just sayin'
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Did I bring it hard enough?



not sure where you went to college...or if you did at all...but Wikipedia is never a valid reference...so no...not really...you didn't bring it...at all....
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