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Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:08 pm to brucevilanch
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mini daschsund
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Bitch dog.
Most ignorant post I believe I have ever read. I have two and they are as sweet, mild mannered and loyal of any dog I've ever had.
As for the OP..I am so sorry to hear about your predicament. As the owner of a 15 year old daschsund, it's kind of hard for me to be objective, honestly. I feel your pain, though. Hopefully the owner is just reacting out of hurt and disbelief over the state of their pet right now and maybe cooler heads will prevail after they've had a chance to reflect on this. In any case, I wish you luck and you're definitely in my thoughts.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:08 pm to lsu480
We're definitely wanting to move away from here. I'll put Arizona on the list! 
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:09 pm to Carolina_Girl
Dachsunds are awesome dogs. I want a longhaired one.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:10 pm to SabiDojo
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We're definitely wanting to move away from here. I'll put Arizona on the list!
Visit Scottsdale between October 1st and May 1st and I promise you that you will want to live here forever!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:11 pm to lsu480
I hear it's awesome. Are there a lot of water restrictions in Arizona? I've never been there.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
from FL statutes
Title XLV. Torts. Chapter 767. Damage by Dogs.
767.01. Dog owner's liability for damages to persons, domestic animals, or livestock
Owners of dogs shall be liable for any damage done by their dogs to a person or to any animal included in the definitions of "domestic animal" and "livestock" as provided by s. 585.01.
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(1) “Dangerous dog” means any dog that according to the records of the appropriate authority:
(a) Has aggressively bitten, attacked, or endangered or has inflicted severe injury on a human being on public or private property;
(b) Has more than once severely injured or killed a domestic animal while off the owner's property; or
(c) Has, when unprovoked, chased or approached a person upon the streets, sidewalks, or any public grounds in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, provided that such actions are attested to in a sworn statement by one or more persons and dutifully investigated by the appropriate authority.
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so my guess is that the owner of wiener dog will file report with animal control authority to note that Les' dog did such an act. If it were to happen again, and my guess is that it will never happen again, Les' dog would be considered a "dangerous animal."
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now if something happened for a third time...
767.13. Attack or bite by dangerous dog; penalties; confiscation; destruction
(1) If a dog that has previously been declared dangerous attacks or bites a person or a domestic animal without provocation, the owner is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. In addition, the dangerous dog shall be immediately confiscated by an animal control authority, placed in quarantine, if necessary, for the proper length of time, or impounded and held for 10 business days after the owner is given written notification under s. 767.12, and thereafter destroyed in an expeditious and humane manner. This 10-day time period shall allow the owner to request a hearing under s. 767.12. The owner shall be responsible for payment of all boarding costs and other fees as may be required to humanely and safely keep the animal during any appeal procedure.
Title XLV. Torts. Chapter 767. Damage by Dogs.
767.01. Dog owner's liability for damages to persons, domestic animals, or livestock
Owners of dogs shall be liable for any damage done by their dogs to a person or to any animal included in the definitions of "domestic animal" and "livestock" as provided by s. 585.01.
_________________________________
(1) “Dangerous dog” means any dog that according to the records of the appropriate authority:
(a) Has aggressively bitten, attacked, or endangered or has inflicted severe injury on a human being on public or private property;
(b) Has more than once severely injured or killed a domestic animal while off the owner's property; or
(c) Has, when unprovoked, chased or approached a person upon the streets, sidewalks, or any public grounds in a menacing fashion or apparent attitude of attack, provided that such actions are attested to in a sworn statement by one or more persons and dutifully investigated by the appropriate authority.
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so my guess is that the owner of wiener dog will file report with animal control authority to note that Les' dog did such an act. If it were to happen again, and my guess is that it will never happen again, Les' dog would be considered a "dangerous animal."
_______________________________________
now if something happened for a third time...
767.13. Attack or bite by dangerous dog; penalties; confiscation; destruction
(1) If a dog that has previously been declared dangerous attacks or bites a person or a domestic animal without provocation, the owner is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. In addition, the dangerous dog shall be immediately confiscated by an animal control authority, placed in quarantine, if necessary, for the proper length of time, or impounded and held for 10 business days after the owner is given written notification under s. 767.12, and thereafter destroyed in an expeditious and humane manner. This 10-day time period shall allow the owner to request a hearing under s. 767.12. The owner shall be responsible for payment of all boarding costs and other fees as may be required to humanely and safely keep the animal during any appeal procedure.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
Do you mean for residential? If so there are ZERO water restrictions as far as I know, I have never heard anything about it.
ETA: it is awesome. If you want to live around a bunch of successful, good looking white people there is no better place to live.
ETA: it is awesome. If you want to live around a bunch of successful, good looking white people there is no better place to live.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:14 pm to Rouge
quote:
Has more than once
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:17 pm to SabiDojo
quote:yes. i noted that in my previous post
Has more than once
dog will not be put down. it is protected under the law
now Les could fight for comparative negligence, but it appears that his family has a relationship with these people. might not be worth the potential fallout.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:18 pm to lsu480
I second the awesomeness that is Scottsdale. We love it here!
Although 480....I don't know if when we buy a home we will be able to afford one in Scottsdale for the type of house we want
Although 480....I don't know if when we buy a home we will be able to afford one in Scottsdale for the type of house we want
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:19 pm to Lester Earl
Les, keep us updated on this if you don't mind.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:19 pm to Rouge
Probably not. However, in my opinion, someone who wants me to put my dog down over something like this is not a person I want to call a friend.
Either way, the relationship between both parties will most likely be scarred, which is sad. After all, they're only dogs.
Either way, the relationship between both parties will most likely be scarred, which is sad. After all, they're only dogs.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:22 pm to Lester Earl
LINK Dachshund most aggressive breed according to university study
Your dog was most probably provoked and just reacted instinctively as animals do.
quote:
In fact, the top three, are in order — dachshund, chihuahua and Jack Russell terrier.
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A researcher who worked on the study, Dr. James Serpell, says that smaller breeds may have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than larger dogs.
"Reported levels of aggression in some cases are concerning, with rates of bites or bite attempts rising as high as 20 per cent toward strangers and 30 percent toward unfamiliar dogs.," he noted.
Your dog was most probably provoked and just reacted instinctively as animals do.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:27 pm to Lester Earl
Time to put him to sleep
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:37 pm to Lester Earl
If he owns a wiener dog he's probably a fig and you don't want the figs mad at you!
Was either dog on a leash?
Was either dog on a leash?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:38 pm to lsunurse
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Although 480....I don't know if when we buy a home we will be able to afford one in Scottsdale for the type of house we want
Location, location location!!! That is all that matters when it comes to real estate. I mean....you could buy a 4000 sq ft house in like South Chandler for the same price as 2000 sq ft in Scottsdale but what's the point. Big houses are a pain in the arse anyways IMO. There is so much to clean, the electric bills are $700 in the summer etc. 2000 sq ft is PLENTY for the 2 of you!!!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:40 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
they're only dogs
You are no longer welcome to move here!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:43 pm to Arkla Missy
I would be interested to know if it were a short haired or a long haired doxie that was injured (I hesitate to use the word "attacked" bc the behavior/reaction may have been provoked). It seems short hairs are much more aggressive than their long hair counterparts for some reason. Even with my two, the short hair took a much, much longer time to train whereas the long hair seemed to just be naturally laid back and relaxed.
I know that I would be more concerned with my dog's health than ending the life of another dog had that been my dog involved. I would never want another family pet euthanized..it is just cruel and unnecessary. Dogs fight...it's in their nature. We, as pet owners, know that and should be prepared should they revert to instinctive behavior vs. trained behavior. I really hope the owner of the doxie rethinks his stance.
I know that I would be more concerned with my dog's health than ending the life of another dog had that been my dog involved. I would never want another family pet euthanized..it is just cruel and unnecessary. Dogs fight...it's in their nature. We, as pet owners, know that and should be prepared should they revert to instinctive behavior vs. trained behavior. I really hope the owner of the doxie rethinks his stance.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 5:44 pm to Lester Earl
Then you are not legally mandated to do any damn thing. Tell em if they pursue you, youll sick your dog on THEM
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