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re: My boss just screwed me over a promotion
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:12 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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They'd let him go, if that's the case. They may not like him, personally, and only need him short term.
BUT, if he wasn't good at his job, they'd let him go be someone else's problem. I have 30+ years of management experience.
Yea, but do you have corporate experience? Alot of times it's hard to fire someone in corporate/government
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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They'd let him go, if that's the case. They may not like him, personally, and only need him short term.
BUT, if he wasn't good at his job, they'd let him go be someone else's problem. I have 30+ years of management experience.
half his team got let go less than 2 weeks ago. utility sales or something along those lines.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:13 pm to JetFuelTyga
Yeah half our team is. We are a flagship initiative and our fricking goals are actually impossible. I saw the new goals and wanted to switch but then I’d frick over the team
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:13 pm to fareplay
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we are on a hiring freeze
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need cfo approval to replace me which can take months
Really sounds like you should be job hunting anyway.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:14 pm to fareplay
Get the Freak out. Really rare to find a decent company or organization that is not full of sh-t or backstabbing. Few and far between ........
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:17 pm to fareplay
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we are on a hiring freeze so any open positions is extremely rare.
Well except for that one you just got passed on.
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Third, they tried to screw me again saying they feel I need to improve my performance on the current team
Uhhhhhhhh
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:17 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Well I work at a utility so I didn’t expect this bullshite. My boss is from chevron and director is from GE and they are some scum
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:17 pm to LSU6262
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Yea, but do you have corporate experience?
It's complicated, but yes. More government/military, but corporate settings as well.
Hire/fire, negotiate salaries, promotions, etc. Not 30 years of corporate, of course, but enough to have some insight as to how these decisions go.
It's obvious they need him for whatever short-term project they're on. He is not viewed as a long-term prospect or they would be working to make him happy. They're stringing him along, praying he doesn't quit before they're ready to let him go - which is imminent - like EOY stuff.
I could be completely wrong (but I'm not).
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:18 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's obvious they need him for whatever short-term project they're on.
He suss earlier in this thread there's a project due in a month and he's the only one who can finish it.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:18 pm to shel311
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This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:23 pm to Breesus
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He suss earlier in this thread there's a project due in a month and he's the only one who can finish it.
I'm taking what he says - graciously - at face value. Most people overvalue themselves (frick, I know I do - I'm priceless to me
) - but if they really viewed him as a long-term prospect, and this other team created a position for him, his boss would let him accept it, deferred until a time in the future - say January 1st. But, they're not planning on any of that. His department/division/team is being done away with and they want him to close it out without quitting on them. They'll likely have to contract out the rest of it if he and the rest of his team catch wind of the plans and all jump ship.
Again - there could be other factors at play here, but to any educated HR person or manager, it certainly appears to be a "string him along until we don't need him" play they're using.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:24 pm to Ace Midnight
I was agreeing with your earlier assessment. They need him and his team to finish that project next month and then they're all fired.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:24 pm to fareplay
Sounds like you should frick his wife
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:25 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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So they literally are willing to pay someone 190k a year but can't afford the $800 ticket to offer them the job.
I know some government agencies in almost the exact same boat - budgeting is literally a process for the insane and demented.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:27 pm to fareplay
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Second, they need cfo approval to replace me which can take months
did you tell them that you aren't retarded and if it takes your CFO that long to make decisions he's the worst CFO this side of the universe?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:29 pm to fareplay
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Third, they tried to screw me again saying they feel I need to improve my performance on the current team
Was the term "Performance Improvement Plan" used?
If so, you are already fired.
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Second, they need cfo approval to replace me which can take months
Maury Povich would determine that this is a lie.
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Fourth: my team goals are so fricking retarded that we can’t hit them
It's called stretch-goal. I bet you've had an openly shitty attitude about this in the past. That's bad.
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I successfully interviewed they are cockblocking
I don't think so.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:30 pm to Ace Midnight
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They'd let him go, if that's the case. They may not like him, personally, and only need him short term.
BUT, if he wasn't good at his job, they'd let him go be someone else's problem. I have 30+ years of management experience.
I didn't suggest he was bad at his job, but he simply isn't as good at is as he thinks/implied.
I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just interpreting the reasons laid out to him in the meeting.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:30 pm to fareplay
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I am applying to places as we speak.
Good, because this place sounds like a train wreck.
When you heard of hiring freezes, tight money, and goals impossible to meet is when you should have began your plan of exit.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:30 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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If they cannot rectify this then I would stay on with a business as usual approach, but start looking. You might find a better job somehwere else but it is not guaranteed.
Never quit a job until you have another. You may think you showed them by quitting but you may screw yourself. Don't burn bridges with them even if you find another job. Those references may be worth somethimg some day.
I have been this route before. This is the best and most assertive approach. Move on to a company that values your experience.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:33 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Its a utility in CA,
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