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re: Multiple studies showing vaccines CAN cause autism

Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:05 am to
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He listed multiple studies from NIH with links.


Ah yes let’s trust a Mel Gibson fan account to interpret academic papers
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:06 am to
I don't think Mel Gibson actually read those articles. Most of them are about thimerosal, which isn't even allowed in vaccines anymore
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:06 am to
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it was no longer necessary because we now have single dose vaccines that don't require preservatives


Correct.

I haven’t had to really ask for preservative free vaccines or flu shots in years as they’ve made a big effort to phase out thimerosal.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:06 am to
I do not have children, but to me, it is not rocket science to figure out "something" has changed in the last 50 years that are causing higher rates of Autism. What changes have taken place with regards to vaccines?

- 50 years ago, in the 1970s, researchers estimated that 2 to 4 children per 10,000 had autism.
- In comparison to the 1970s, there are currently 50 to 100 times more autism cases diagnosed.

The prevalence of autism in the United States has increased by over 1000% since 1970, from 1 in 5000 to 1 in 36
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eta:

Vaccines given today that were not given in 1970

Hepatitis A:
The first inactivated hepatitis A vaccine was licensed in 1995. It was recommended for all U.S. children in 2006.

Hepatitis B:
The first hepatitis B vaccine was approved by the FDA in 1981.

Human papillomavirus (HPV):
It was recommended for all U.S. female adolescents in 2006 and male adolescents in 2011.

Meningococcal:
It was recommended for U.S. adolescents in 2005.

Rotavirus:
It was recommended for all U.S. children in 2006.

Other vaccines that are given today:
Hib conjugate vaccines
Varicella vaccine.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104287 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:12 am to
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50 years ago, in the 1970s, researchers estimated that 2 to 4 children per 10,000 had autism. - In comparison to the 1970s, there are currently 50 to 100 times more autism cases diagnosed. The prevalence of autism in the United States has increased by over 1000% since 1970, from 1 in 5000 to 1 in 36
There were 0 people in the entire world with autism in 1700. Nobody had Parkinson’s either. Crazy

Bro Elon musk has autism. He would have simply been called a genius before, now he quite literally has autism
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 11:14 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:13 am to
I think its odd that it literally tells you why the prevalence has increased directly below where you pulled those numbers from, but you just chose to ignore that
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:17 am to
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50 years ago, in the 1970s, researchers estimated that 2 to 4 children per 10,000 had autism.


In the 1970's autism was directly associated with Schizophrenia. It didn't become defined as a developmental disorder separate from schizophrenia until 1980. Definition has been growing to include more disorders under the umbrella of autism ever since.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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I think its odd that it literally tells you why the prevalence has increased directly below where you pulled those numbers from, but you just chose to ignore that

Seriously? This is what you're saying is I should focus on? This bullshite?

Why is autism increasing so much?

Autism rates are increasing due to a combination of factors, including:
1. increased awareness
2. improved screening tools
3. broader diagnostic criteria.
These factors have led to earlier detection and more diagnoses.

ETA:
Don't focus on the 7 ADDITIONAL vaccines given today that were not given 50 years ago.

This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19210 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Multiple studies showing vaccines CAN cause autism

This is like a bat signal for the biggest retards on the OT

Don't be a retard, vaccinate your kids.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104032 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:


I do not have children, but to me, it is not rocket science to figure out "something" has changed in the last 50 years that are causing higher rates of Autism. What changes have taken place with regards to vaccines?


Occam's Razor.

It's not the vaccines. It's the fact that we have rightfully changed the diagnostic criteria in the DSM from being a part of schizophrenia (that's how it was labeled until 1980 with the DSM-III) to an actual diagnosis itself with a spectrum of symptoms in 1994.

What we used to do is throw people with Autism in asylums and labeled them as "slow". Now we understand that you can be high functioning with ASD and that there is a spectrum of symptoms dependent upon frequency and intensity.

Autism Evolution Over Time
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:21 am to
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Seriously? This is what you're saying is I should focus on? This bullshite?


why, exactly, is it bullshite?
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19210 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:21 am to
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It's not the vaccines. It's the fact that we have rightfully changed the diagnostic criteria in the DSM from being a part of schizophrenia (that's how it was labeled until 1980 with the DSM-III) to an actual diagnosis itself with a spectrum of symptoms in 1994.

Don't you go using critical thinking in a "vaccines cause autism" thread
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104287 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:22 am to
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This bullshite?


quote:

Autism rates are increasing due to a combination of factors, including: 1. increased awareness 2. improved screening tools 3. broader diagnostic criteria. These factors have led to earlier detection and more diagnoses.
Thats bullshite?

Dude, Elon musk, Elon fricking musk is now autistic. There are TONS of other people just like him who are defined as autistic as well

Never ever ever before would that have been the case in human history. It’s the most important reason why “autism has increased”
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:25 am to
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In 1994, the DSM-IV was released


quote:

Children who exhibited more mild forms of autism were now more likely to be diagnosed with the disability.


oh wow guys I have no idea why the prevalence starting spiking in the 90s

its such a mystery
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104287 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:27 am to
There is a pro tennis player that got to top 50 in the world recently that has “autism”

Meanwhile, you could have had a complete non verbal struggling person on 1960 that would have simply been called “retarded” or “slow” and moved on
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 11:28 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104032 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:28 am to
quote:

oh wow guys I have no idea why the prevalence starting spiking in the 90s

its such a mystery




It's kind of like the "well Autism didn't exist until the 90s" comments and then in another thread someone mentions their reclusive 65 year old Aunt who lives with her 4 cats, has issues with food textures, and has a 30,000 deep Kewpie Doll collection.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33914 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:28 am to
Can’t wait until DoGE turns on the lights on deceptive funding which benefits big Pharma.

You’re going to have millions of pissed off parents.
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1707 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:29 am to
People take medical advice from Mel Gibson? Jesus Christ
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:31 am to
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Can’t wait until DoGE turns on the lights on deceptive funding which benefits big Pharma.


the first study in the OP was funded by the Dwoskin family.

A few notes on the Dwoskin family:

- The Dwoskins are contributors to numerous Democratic political causes and campaigns, including those related to former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who have each personally attended fundraisers at the Dwoskin’s home in Virginia.

- He is the chairman of Catalist, a for-profit corporation originally funded by George Soros that specializes in microtargeting for Democratic political campaigns.

- Claire Dwoskin formerly served as a finance vice-chair for the Democratic National Committee, and has been active in Democratic political efforts.

- The Foundation also funds Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), which does left-leaning legal advocacy work, and Media Matters for America, critic of conservative media, two organizations associated with controversial Clinton family-associated Democratic operative David Brock.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55661 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:37 am to
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Who the frick takes medical advice from Mel Gibson?


I remember when people thought Jenny McCarthy was the werido
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