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re: MSY Terminal Plumbing Issues due to desire to be cheap

Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:06 am to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:06 am to
We should just rebrand the new terminal as a museum of political boondoggles and keep using the existing one.

The existing terminal is easy in and out for frequent travelers. Paint it and clean the carpet and we will be fine. It will save hundreds of millions in new road construction that could be used to fix existing roads.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:12 am
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:09 am to
If only Mitch Landrieu‘s cousin would own the company that provides these hangers I’m sure they would have used more than enough.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11410 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:22 am to
Stay focused, just the hangers in this thread
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31857 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:24 am to
Guaranteed at least ten times that $22K was skimmed by both the contractor and the city PM.
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2502 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:30 am to
The brand new, no shite in the pipes yet airport. Imagine how those piles will hold up once they get full.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73159 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:31 am to
Saving $22,000 cost them millions. Guess it was worth it
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Stay focused, just the hangers in this thread



My hatred of the Landrieu clan is too intense to not bring them into this in total.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 8:06 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:35 am to
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Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 am to
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Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Stay focused, just the hangers in this thread 


quote:

Anaximander


I thought it was a good post and upvoted accordingly.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5876 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:44 am to
It’s my understanding from someone who has been working on this project that there are far bigger problems.

Apparently there are enormous foundation problems. It’s beginning to crack everywhere, and floors and walls are buckling all over because of how soft the ground is out on the edge of that swamp.

Apparently it won’t be passing any sort of inspections anytime soon.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11410 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:47 am to
You said it, it’s a fricking swamp. There’s not enough concrete in the world to make that place stable
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3992 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

quick youtube on how it could be worse



And the germans are known for their precision engineering...
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:00 am to
Mitch has a plan for the plumbing problems. Of course right before the contract gets issued a company named Landrieu portalets will be registered to do business in Louisiana.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18872 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Saving $22,000 cost them millions. Guess it was worth it

This is an easy, facile comment on what likely is a complicated issue. I do this for a living (on the legal side) and can tell you it's never so simple. Every installed component goes through multiple levels of submittals and approvals, RFIs, ASIs, requests for changes, etc. If the installing contractor wanted to deviate from the contract documents (assuming the contract documents specified the correct spacing for hangers to comply with the code, I think 18 inches on center), it received permission from the CMAR, architect, and engineers.

I'm not defending any of the parties on that job (many of whom I know personally), and I've seen contractors and designers of all sizes and competencies make really bad decisions. It will take more than a TV report or newspaper articles to flesh out all the facts and determine who is responsible for the delays.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18872 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Saving $22,000 cost them millions. Guess it was worth it

This is an easy, facile comment on what likely is a complicated issue. I do this for a living (on the legal side) and can tell you it's never so simple. Every installed component goes through multiple levels of submittals and approvals, RFIs, ASIs, requests for changes, etc. If the installing contractor wanted to deviate from the contract documents (assuming the contract documents specified the correct spacing for hangers to comply with the code, I think 18 inches on center), it received permission from the CMAR, architect, and engineers.

I'm not defending any of the parties on that job (many of whom I know personally), and I've seen contractors and designers of all sizes and competencies make really bad decisions. It will take more than a TV report or newspaper articles to flesh out all the facts and determine who is responsible for the delays.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30404 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:13 am to
That is hilarious
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Anaximander

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73159 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:26 am to
A lot of people are waiting for retail and restaurants to open. They hired the employees months ago, expecting to open before summer. A lot of people have money in this who would feel the pain of sitting out another four years.

I don't think getting there will be that bad. You exit Loyola and then have 1/4 mile to go before you're at the airport. People who take Williams now have a longer ride.
Now there isn't that direct road anymore with no lights, but the current set up will service. Especially if shuttles use Bainbridge.

Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:30 am to
quote:

A lot of people are waiting for retail and restaurants to open. They hired the employees months ago, expecting to open before summer. A lot of people have money in this who would feel the pain of sitting out another four years.

I don't think getting there will be that bad. You exit Loyola and then have 1/4 mile to go before you're at the airport. People who take Williams now have a longer ride.
Now there isn't that direct road anymore with no lights, but the current set up will service. Especially if shuttles use Bainbridge.



The restaurants are another issue. There are complaints that the buildouts are not going to work for some of the food vendors.

As to getting there, the distance from the entrance of the airport to the Interstate has been cut by more than 3/4 with the new terminal. A backup at the old terminal almost never backed up onto the already crowded interstate because of the length of the access road. Now, that buffer is gone. Get ready for some rides through Kenner on I-10 which are even more nightmarish than previous.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 8:32 am
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