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re: Mother And Son Charged With Incest
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:00 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:00 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Did you read the stuff I posted?
i grew up in a big italian family that allowed a glass of wine at age of 16 or so. I know that not all people that drink alcohol are alcoholics. I read the beer thread on the food board and know that there are a large volume of people that drink alcohol without abusing it
If so, how'd you read it and NOT realize all those facts were children of alcoholics, not children of parents who have a drink here and there? Did you really not comprehend that part?
FWIW, the stuff you said that I just quoted is entirely irrelevant to anything I said, so I'm not sure why you mentioned it.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 1:02 pm
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:02 pm to shel311
quote:
If so, how'd you read it and NOT realize all those facts were children of alcoholics, not children of parents who have a drink here and there? Did you really not comprehend that part? Or are you just moving the goalpost and stating something that has nothing to do with anything I posted because there's no real retort for the facts I posted that you can come up with?
im aware of the problems of alcoholism. Had you picked a better example for comparison I would actually engage you. But you're in a different stratosphere, shel.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:03 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
no, you support incest, you sick frick
quote:
Im not going to sit here and call you names
LE triggered.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:04 pm to Lester Earl
quote:lol sure you did.
what do you want data on? i must have missed it
quote:Hey, look at that. I wonder what you're doing in this thread, surely not the same exact thing, right?
not like it will change your opinion. You're too focused on winning an argument on the internet
Back to back shots taken at people. LE's losing his cool, it's funny to see it happen in real time.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:05 pm to Lester Earl
What would be a better comparison, iyo?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:05 pm to Lester Earl
quote:So you knew your Italian glass of wine at 16 example had literally nothing to do with what I was pointing out, but you brought it anyway?
im aware of the problems of alcoholism.
Seems like a strange thing to do.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:07 pm to SabiDojo
quote:His logic makes no sense at all, to be honest.
What would be a better comparison, iyo?
Incest should be illegal because he thinks it would make people molest children.
I gave him a list of actual facts of what alcoholism does to children. Nah, terrible comparison.
We can use LE's logic about "sick fricks supporting incest" and say that LE supports increasing suicide risk in kids by 85%, that SICK frick!!!
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:16 pm to Lester Earl
quote:LOL. OK. Why does it work for incest but not in all cases where the government doesn't step in?
IDK, who says it only works in the case of incest?
quote:
I said 100%? can you link that?
You said
quote:Are you now backtracking? Are you saying that in fact the above CAN happen?
I mean are we really going to act like all of a sudden 2 adult relatives decide to just frick one another?
quote:I don't think you know what the term blanket statement means.
oh look, another blanket statement. Yes, cause every law is the same and i think the same thing regarding every law!!!!11 rah rah rah blah blah blah!!!!
quote:Link??
no, you support incest, you sick frick
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:18 pm to shel311
quote:
His logic makes no sense at all, to be honest
His logic........
"Not having a law on adult incest equals "encouraging" child incest(which would still be illegal)."
"People don't wake up as adults wanting to frick their mom"............"but, apparently, sometimes they do because it is wrong to say he means that 100% of the time".
Logic? He isn't even vaguely familiar with "logic".
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:19 pm to shel311
quote:Oh, but you see........he applies "logic" on a "case by case" basis.
We can use LE's logic about "sick fricks supporting incest" and say that LE supports increasing suicide risk in kids by 85%, that SICK frick!!!
That makes him soooooo smart.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:20 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
What would be a better comparison, iyo?
Not sure, not my job to come up with one, but that isnt it. The main problem is that not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic & suffers from alcoholism.
So disallowing alcohol is much more of a gray area. You can find proponents on each side. But when it comes to incest, the very people that admit it is sick & disgusting are using government as their platform to legalize it.
They can't address the actual act. They want to address the "freedom of adults to do what they want". Without considering the how it can affect kids. There are no positives to gain from legalizing incest outside of "freedom". There are positives to keeping alcohol legal. Yes, it affects kids when parents choose to abuse it. But that is not everyone who drinks.
In the end, it's clear this is more of blanket political issue for them.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:20 pm to ShortyRob
quote:He's basically making a ton of blanket statements, claiming others are making blanket statements, then making personal attacks when called on his blanket statements, while backtracking off of his blanket statements.
His logic........ "Not having a law on adult incest equals "encouraging" child incest(which would still be illegal)." "People don't wake up as adults wanting to frick their mom"............"but, apparently, sometimes they do because it is wrong to say he means that 100% of the time". Logic? He isn't even vaguely familiar with "logic".
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Everyone who commits incest does it with children?
The main problem is that not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic & suffers from alcoholism
100% or not? Man, you really need to make up your mind on this 100% thing.
quote:Who is "they?" Pretty sure everyone you're arguing with in this thread has addressed it probably 5-10 times.
They can't address the actual act
quote:So again, 100% of the incest folks are doing it with children?
There are positives to keeping alcohol legal. Yes, it affects kids when parents choose to abuse it. But that is not everyone who drinks.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:23 pm to BigPerm30
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Didnt read the whole thread, but would it not be illegal for father and son to play hide the sausage?
quote:
Inbreds have a much higher chance of congenital birth defects. These birth defects can often be debilitating and they become wards of the state. I don't care what they frick but don't frick your mom, sister, dad, brother, etc.
Didnt read the whole thread, but would it not be illegal for father and son to play hide the sausage?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:24 pm to trom83
Once again proves how women are batshit cray. The dudes one nasty fricker.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:26 pm to shel311
is the 100% thing all you got ? Jeebus Shel, talk about grasping at straws. Give me something dude.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:31 pm to Lester Earl
quote:1. Are you not going to clarify? Pretty telling.
is the 100% thing all you got ?
2. Is that "all" I got? I gave you more, most of which you haven't touched or responded to my requests, despite me obliging yours.
Is that all I got he says. Funny stuff. I'm wondering about your reading comprehension in this thread, maybe your just skipping or skimming posts to ask "is that all I got" when you've ignored way more.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:42 pm to shel311
quote:
1. Are you not going to clarify? Pretty telling.
I never said everyone who commits incest only does it with children.
quote:
2. Is that "all" I got? I gave you a hell of a lot more, most of which you haven't touched or responded to my requests, despite me obliging yours.
Is that all I got he says. Funny stuff. I'm wondering about your reading comprehension in this thread, maybe your just skipping or skimming posts to ask "is that all I got" when you've ignored way more.
You came up with the terrible comparison. I said that from the jump. Ive tried to go with the premise but there is nothing there that wants me to dive into that deeply. They just arent relatable
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:45 pm to Lester Earl
quote:You're going to actually try and tell me straight up that this doesn't insinuate exactly that:
I never said everyone who commits incest only does it with children
quote:So you really are going to act like 2 adult relatives sometimes decide to just frick one another?
I mean are we really going to act like all of a sudden 2 adult relatives decide to just frick one another?
quote:Says only you.
You came up with the terrible comparison
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:51 pm to shel311
quote:
So you really are going to act like 2 adult relatives sometimes decide to just frick one another?
Again, i am of the belief that adults that engage in incest are influenced as children by their relative in the power position. Whether they actually are committing incest with them as children is unknown. The older relative is planting the seed, so to speak. We know that 1 of every 3 child abuse situations go unreported. I am of the belief that no grown adult just wakes up one morning and wants to frick an older relative. There is a seed planted way before that.
If you disagree with any of that, please copy and paste and address it. If you want to argue semantics about some made up percentage, im out.
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