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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:17 pm to
Probably clear down to Plaquemine.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:19 pm to
When that old river control structure fails it’s gonna be an interesting day.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:21 pm to
It seems like this is the most likely and most frightening. Unfortunately, it’s the most predictable, and has been for decades.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
Like everything else, there will be winners and losers. It'll be happy days for the baws in civil engineering and contracting. East Central Louisiana will boom. For a while Natchez-Vidalia-Ferriday will be the center of the universe.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49236 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
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The incident with the barge during Katrina was in the Lower Ninth Ward. The Industrial Canal I that area had a levee with a floodwall on top of it. The floodwall failed. Whether that was the result of overtopping and erosion, the loose barge striking the floodwall or a combination of the two, I'm not sure.




Landed on a school bus.

This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 6:28 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23515 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:26 pm to
I think that’s why they kicked the kids off the Indian Mounds

If they can keep the Mounds high enough, they will be able to see when the river is coming, and have time to evacuate

LSU is proactive when it comes to climate considerations. Cal-Berkeley could learn a thing or two
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:28 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 6:30 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:30 pm to
What do y’all think happens to the national economy if that station fails?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32766 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:32 pm to
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When that old river control structure fails it’s gonna be an interesting day.


It'll never happen
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:32 pm to
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It'll never happen
Why not?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:35 pm to

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Don’t know about what would happen, but Mark Wahlberg would star in the movie.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:43 pm to
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What do y’all think happens to the national economy if that station fails?



The Port of South Louisiana handles 60% of midwest grain exports. I'm not including the port of New Orleans or Baton Rouge.

The city of New Orleans would lose its fresh water source.

Let's just say, it would be a hell of an economic shock.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:46 pm to
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I work with a bunch of people in minnesota. She has almost 4 feet of snow on her lawn, which is an insane amount. She suggested it won't melt until April though


My best friend lives in the Olympic Peninsula and they've had more snow than many of the old-timers can remember.

I watched a program a few years back about the shifting pattern of polar vortexes caused by rising global temperatures or possibly just natural Earth cycles on the order of eons.

Such a thing could cause real problems for people in south Louisiana. All the control structures and levees are designed for what we know about Mississippi River flow garnered over the past couple hundred years. If long-term weather patterns shift that infrastructure can become obsolete and create a huge disaster. Hopefully this happens slowly enough for ACE to adjust but it seems like we're already walking a fine line and skirting disaster.

Typical government inefficiency and oversight.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:47 pm to
The cynic in me thinks that those investing in the chem plants wouldn’t do so unless they believed that it would hold. But then again didn’t Murphy oil in N.O. Flood? Then again that’s small potatoes compared to what’s South of BR. frick, I don’t know, lol.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:47 pm to
My late brother married a girl who lived on River Road somewhere around Darrow I think. The levee broke around 1980-82 (?) and they lost their house. So it definitely has happened.

Edit- 1983- Darrow- not sure if the house was destroyed or if they just got paid to move or something. I think the latter.


This 700 ft section of levee slid into the east side of the Mississippi River on August 23, 1983 at Darrow, in Ascension
Parish, Louisiana. The slide occured shortly after a high water stage had receded, suggesting that toe undercutting and
rapid drawdown likely contributed to the failure.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 7:04 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28422 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:47 pm to
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a break south of the BR (L'auberge area) would possibly result in the river flowing that old pathway to the amite....


Where do y'all come up with this shite? Bayou Manchac was a distributary of the Mississippi at the time of European settlement. It took flow from the Mississippi almost continually. Any break in the levee south of BR is a temporary break until the river drops back down to low conditions and allows for repair. It's a relief valve. It's not a permanent home.

Edit: I'll keep what I wrote, but I think I may have misread your comment as it being a permanent diversion. On second reading I don't think that's what you mean. My bad.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 6:50 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32766 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Why not?


Its too critical and would be too devastating. This isn't a levy at a random point in the city, but a well known control structure. Visibility is too high. The corp will not let it fail.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:55 pm to
Considering that every single outfall canal in Orleans Parish had a levee failure, on both sides, if I had to guess, I would say was a subsidence failure from negligent construction and not a barge incident
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:57 pm to
Read a flood map, baw
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
13448 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 7:01 pm to
Upriver, St. Louis region maybe
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