re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

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Thunder in February means frost in April. Book it.

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That’s what my Grandaddy said (he was Cherokee) (no I’m not EW)

Maybe the reason they've been slow playing BR traffic infrastructure is because they know they won't be needing it.

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It’s been 39 years since this report.

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And a helluva lot of work done on the complex.

Initially, refugees from the flooded areas would go to Baton Rouge & Lafayette, filling them with people like after Katrina. Then aid workers would come in, extra plant workers to handle changeovers, levee builders, etc. etc.

There really won’t be a Mississippi River Levee below Old River Control because the levees are two short and wide. The River will have to cut a channel, then a system will have to be built.

Eventually, say in a decade or longer, the swamp may dry some and a new Mississippi River Levee area will exist west of where it is now. But unless the alluvial deposits build up the low areas it will be too low to build on.

A new Mississippi River bride (over the Atachfalaya basin) will have to be built. It will be a cluster for a long time.

There will be a lot of effort in keeping navigation the the current riverbed for barge traffic at a minimum flowing. God, I hope this doesn’t happen.

Man this thread took a hell of a dark turn overnight. Just read through all the overnight comments and the LSU study.

Good freaking morning to me.

Before we all shite our pants, let’s remember that Morganza has far more capacity than was used in 2011.

Is there a risk? Yes. Is it likely? No.

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Man this thread took a hell of a dark turn overnight. Just read through all the overnight comments and the LSU study.

Good freaking morning to me.

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Found this interesting. Reading the summary of the study, I noticed that the costs of these outcomes was not included in the estimates in the study (see page 4):

1. Relocation costs of residents and movable property located in the Basin;
2. Capital costs of water conservation equipment , mostly cooling towers, in the Baton
Rouge-New Orleans industrial corridor and subsequent increased operating cost .
3. Construction and maintenance of additional levees and flood control measures in the
Basin and possible increases in dredging;
4. Disruption of oil and gas production and exploration in the Basin and damage to the
facilities due to flood waters;
5. Possible brownouts or selective blackouts due to the salt 1;ater wedge immobilizing
electric generating plants located along the ~1ississippi River south of the ORCS.
Also, there would be additional costs in retrofitting these plants for saline water;
6. High mortality rates for deer, rabbits, squirrels and other animals domiciled in the
Basin.
7. High mortality rates for shrimp and oysters in central Louisiana in the first and second
year following the failure but possibly greater harvests in the long run .
8. Shoaling in the t1ississippi immediately downstream from the O. R.C. S., which would hamper,
or even eliminate barge navigation.

Barge traffic shouldn’t be a problem as I would think the existing river bed would maintain at least as much water as the ICW. Big thing will be ships. Nola will cease to be a major port city and Houston would capture even more than it already has until Morgan city can get the infrastructure in place to handle the ships.

A lot of what is considered the ‘Port of New Orleans’ are Supertankers offloaded near the mouth, basically still in the Gulf. It’s not as though they pull up to Gov. Nicholls St. wharf and unload bales of whatever anymore.

It’s bulk unloading operations way offshore with minimum personnel into pipelines.

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Chuker

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You are partly to blame here with your "my cousin's co-worker's wife is head of the lifejacket distribution" comment

Not giving you a hard time, just pointing out how brilliant and how perfectly "OT" that comment was.