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re: More negative news for covid vaccines

Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3139 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:06 am to
The same people criticizing the vaccines for being rushed are also criticizing the detailed review process and also refusing to wear masks or distance.

It's nonsensical.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29994 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:44 am to
quote:

the promising results came after a batch of volunteers were accidentally given half doses. The efficacy of the vaccine was significantly lower at 62 percent for those who received the correctly administered two full doses.


so its way better then 90% if half doses cured them and yet they claim full doses are only 62% yep the bull shite meter is pegging out right now on this

how can a full dose be less effective at only 62% if the half doses were 90% effective ???????????????????
Posted by Dixierebel
Alexandria, La
Member since Dec 2016
534 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:52 am to
Because they are lying about how effective the so called vaccine is. The Flu vaccine is 20-40% effective on any given year due to mutation. They cannot manufacture an effective vaccine for flu, AIDS, Ebola, Covid and a multitude of other virus because virus mutates.....
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 11:57 am to
wonder why the market isn't down 2000 points last time I looked
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 12:03 pm to
The wording is horrid but the dose they are referring to is the challenge dose with the virus. In other words, they gave them half the amount of virus and it worked 90%.

Again, these ridiculously high efficacy numbers for all of them are likely for them giving super low viral challenge doses. Makes the numbers go up.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:00 pm to
Brexit
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98175 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:09 pm to
The Astrazenica vaccine uses a harmless virus to carry the vaccine into the body. The theory is the body develops immunity to this virus in the first dose, rendering the second dose ineffective. Cutting the dose in half reduces the chance of this happening.
Posted by maxxrajun70
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2011
3726 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:49 pm to
Novavax
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12810 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Because they are lying about how effective the so called vaccine is. The Flu vaccine is 20-40% effective on any given year due to mutation. They cannot manufacture an effective vaccine for flu, AIDS, Ebola, Covid and a multitude of other virus because virus mutates...


You shouldnt speak if you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113940 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Everyone must have realized Trump is about to win the election so they’re rolling back the good news about the vaccines.



Yeah.... Im pretty sure everyone except for the Trump Cult members realizes a fork has been stuck in him.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41389 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:13 pm to
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And the review of the data is what has revealed these errors.

The FDA isn't going to just trust without having data available.


You do know data can be manipulated. Why manipulate it - who knows - but data can be manipulated and it’s mostly true but sometimes important parts are left out because that’s not needed to be presented

That’s why some studies say one thing and then another study on the same thing say something else
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12608 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:17 pm to
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1/2 dose = 90% effective

Full dose = 62% effective


I'm no scientist, but I recommend going with 1/2 dose.



Or maybe we just call the 90% effective option the full dose?

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30080 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:49 pm to
I'm waiting for Dominion Pharmaceuticals testing numbers before I'll believe anything...
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3148 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:51 pm to
1/2 dose = 90% effective

Full dose = 62% effective



I would like the 3/8 dose please.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 4:07 pm to
God the media is pathetic

Half the dose we thought we needed looks like it’s effective

ONOZ! No vaccine!!!!
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 4:46 pm to
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wonder why the market isn't down 2000 points last time I looked


Because it's the bizarro market.
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