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re: MIT study infiltrates Covid lockdown/mask skeptic groups and finds that they're... smart
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:51 am to Centinel
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:51 am to Centinel
Remember, it is scientists who are researching everything from cancer to Parkinson’s. Be careful on labeling scientists as a whole in a negative light. You may end up owing your life to one.
Want to be jaded about COVID, fine. But generally marking science as fake news is not smart.
Want to be jaded about COVID, fine. But generally marking science as fake news is not smart.
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:53 am to CharlesLSU
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Want to be jaded about COVID, fine. But generally marking science as fake news is not smart.
The problem is 95% with mainstream media and 5% with actual scientific institutions.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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People who analyze critically are smarter than those who accept authority unquestioned? No way!
I love the irony of this post
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:56 am to ell_13
quote:So what does scientific research say about masks?
Arguing anti-maskers need more scientific literacy is to characterize their approach as uninformed & inexplicably extreme. This study shows the opposite: they are deeply invested in forms of critique & knowledge production they recognize as markers of scientific expertise"
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:03 am to Tigerlaff
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The problem is 95% with mainstream media and 5% with actual scientific institutions
Then pay attention to the 5%. No one is making you watch the news. The world is trying to get back to normal. There are interest that still want you afraid of either the virus or you loosing freedoms. Both sides are winning by keeping you in a state of fear.
Fear is the key
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:07 am to hubertcumberdale
That entire post contradicted itself twice
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:10 am to Tigerlaff
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The problem is 95% with mainstream media and 5% with actual scientific institutions.
Let's not disregard the fallibility of the scientific institutions here
When there is new research that might oppose scientific consensus or thought, it is often treated with more skepticism, often delayed publishing, or more research is deemed necessary
And this is where the distrust from the institutions comes from
And the sensitivity in which these opposing thoughts are treated isn't so much due to conspiracy or the want for control of thought, but moreso the thought that the general public wouldn't or can't understand how all data fits together and how to interpret competing theories as a whole
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:12 am to Salmon
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I love the irony of this post
There is no irony in that post.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Well of course you don't see it.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:16 am to Salmon
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fallibility of the scientific institutions here
The problem is half the population worships scientific institutions, and doesn't seem to understand science.
its not sacred.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The problem is half the population worships scientific institutions, and doesn't seem to understand science.
Replace the population with you and science with economics and you're actually right for a change.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no irony in that post.
:sigh: without derailing this thread, in which I've enjoyed so far, I'll explain
Your post clearly demonstrates that you did no "critical analysis" of the paper, as the conclusion of the paper, in no way, supports or even hints at your conclusion.
Therefore, the only logical conclusion would be that you accepted the authority of this paper, or more accurately, the OP, unquestioned.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:20 am to ell_13
Just listen to Bret Weinstein talk about today's scientific community, and peer review politics, and it will give you an idea of why even people as smart as him do not blindly trust scientists.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:20 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Replace the population with you
Look at you following me around. Its cute.
I've got enough groupies, thanks.
Werent you accusing someone else of stalking earlier?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:20 am to Salmon
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Therefore, the only logical conclusion would be that you accepted the authority of this paper, or more accurately, the OP, unquestioned.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:21 am to madddoggydawg
quote:Medical masks that get discarded after every use have been shown to help protect medical field workers when studies focus specifically on highly contagious outbreaks. These are typically used over short periods of time while in close proximity to people infected.
So what does scientific research say about masks?
Cloth masks worn incorrectly over and over by the public for hours at a time do absolutely nothing. Disposable are only slightly better if used once and correctly then discarded correctly as well. The public, rather than being educated on what masks work and how they should work, are simply told to mask up! with very few other instructions.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:22 am to Salmon
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Therefore, the only logical conclusion would be that you accepted the authority of this paper,
Wrong.
There's literally nothing to the piece except to explain that people who question the status quo are not Neanderthals, like our President said.
This is a universal truth.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:22 am to ell_13
Here's all the science I needed. Back in March 2020 when I saw Tom Hanks and his wife chatting it up while infected with this plague, and the media immediately begin putting blame on Trump and trying to tank the economy with their fear mongering I knew exactly what this was all about.
14 months, zero masks, zero social distancing, zero personal restrictions later I've still yet to know and or even know of a single healthy person under the age of 85 who has been affected by this virus in any way.
14 months, zero masks, zero social distancing, zero personal restrictions later I've still yet to know and or even know of a single healthy person under the age of 85 who has been affected by this virus in any way.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:23 am to ell_13
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Cloth masks worn incorrectly over and over by the public for hours at a time do absolutely nothing.
Bingo.
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